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It's not great for collaboration. It's great for the bottom line of the agency (cubicles are cheaper than offices by a lot), and it gets spun as good for collaborating.
@Mediavest 1This makes me both sad and angry. You were afraid to tell him because he was black? How does race have anything to do with this situation? The definition of racism is treating people different based on race or ethnicity. If someone, anyone, has music on that's distracting you can tell them. It's good to be culturally sensitive, but playing loud music at work has nothing to do with that. I just don't get how being black or Indian or Mexican would have anything to do with this situation. Unless of course you're just scared of ppl who aren't white. Which in that case, GFY.
As a black guy, this confirms my suspicions that no aspect of work life is unaffected by blackness. I'm going to go weep in the corner now. Thank you.
I can't wait until I'm experienced enough to get an office with a door that closes.
Goddamnit, thank you @Leo Burnett 1
For the record, I will tell anyone regardless of race to turn down their music. I will also tell them to get off my lawn and to stop looking at their phone.
"I did not dare to because of his race." The fact that race was even a factor in this is on you @Mediavest 1. Whether he did it intentionally or not, you could have asked him to turn it down. Nowhere in that fact lies someone's race, gender, or identity. It's your own prejudice and assumptions that he was challenging you and that you couldn't respond because he was black, along with the phrasing of your previous post, that makes you racist.
And, I'm not just sitting here calling you a racist. You're doing a pretty good job of letting the world know all by yourself.
@Havas 1 - sad but true. The book "Between the World and Me" does a good job of describing one man's experience with same topic throughout his life
Also, it looks like @Mediavest 1's racist comment has been removed. Sorry for taking over this thread
Well... that escalated quickly. Was not expecting race to come up in a vent about open office thread.
@LB1 - I am wondering if you really think that the black guy in my office turned his music loud just accidentally without noticing that it was loud? When I was looking for the source of that music, he looked straight in my eyes challenging me. I did not dare because of his racr. Did not want to be called a racist. But suddenly here I am called a racist.
Next time he makes his music loud I will tell his to put his headphones on.
Headphones are there new cubicle walls. An open office can be great for collaboration, but it won't suddenly make teams any more collaborative.
@mediavest | spark 1 this must be the very first time anyone has accused you of being racist. And as someone who works with people who regularly blast music, just know that it's not a race thing. But since asking him to use his headphones would be a race thing, I hope you cranked up your country tunes and had a good ol' standoff.
@LB1 - LOL, my entire offer is white, and nobody risked to tell this guy to put on his headphones. When I asked our office manager if it is okay to do so, she just smiled at me.
Next time I will just approach him and ask if this is an operational necessity to gave his music aloud.
@LB1 - and it is also very funny how you call me racist for not want g to get into an argument. But whatever...
@MS1 You still don't get it. It's not about the argument. It's about his race and your office's predominant race having anything to do with the matter at all. If your post was "a guy in my turned music up really loud and no one wanted to tell him." That would seem fine. But since your [now deleted] post was "A young black guy turned his music up really loud and nobody wanted to tell him because he was black." Then, it becomes racist because you see race as playing a major role.
But alas, we won't stem or solve the issue of casual racism here. If you want to continue this conversation, I suggest we use our real names. I'm willing to own my stance and words in public. I'd like to see if you'd be willing to repost your original comment (as I paraphrased above) and own yours.