Is anyone very afraid of graduating from mid-level to “senior?” I feel like the lateral market is not as great for seniors and looking to lateral at years 7+ seems like you are just leaving bc you won’t make partner, and if you do leave the partner clock starts all over again. Are there better exit options as a senior from litigation to in house?

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Hey girls, if you're still waiting on that ten-year associate, trade that mf'er in and get you a NEP!

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To be honest, one firm’s “senior associate” is another firms “non-equity partner”, “counsel”, “of counsel”, or just plain “associate” so your title really means nothing in a hiring partner’s mind (I am one, hence my presence on this app). As such, don’t worry about the title or the promotion (although the promotion is a favorable thing you should highlight). The issue is more with your years of experience, the rate they have to bill you, whether you can add value to an existing client or whether you need to eat what you kill, and how much you will want in terms of comp due to your years of experience.

I know a woman who left at 6 year to go in-house, stayed in-house for a couple years, then came back out to another firm as a staff attorney and she is now an equity partner and the head of the corporate department at that new firm. No one cares about your titles or how long you’ve been doing it, it all comes down to what you can do for that specific firm (because if they didn’t want you, you wouldn’t even get to talking to them in the first place and they would caveat it as “we love you, but we don’t have a need at the moment” and that message is the same whether your a junior or senior lateral).

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There are boutique firms. There are also a lot of girls now that like keep associates for like 15 years

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Wow that was a great typo.

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It’s more difficult to go in-house as a litigator. There are comparably few in-house litigation positions unless you have some specialty like employment or internal investigations. Some product counsel roles seem open to litigators, however. Your major exit otherwise has always been government.

That said, I feel like you’re being overly anxious about this. The partner clock doesn’t start “all over,” they just usually make it clear they won’t consider you for like 2 years. It’s not the end of the world. Also, a firm that is hiring you presumably would presumably have a favorable view of you and not just think of you as some poor sad sack who couldn’t cut it to partner.

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