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Hello Fishes,
Need some advice for my cousin.
She has done MBA in Finance ,(2018 passout) after BCOM.
Worked in HDFC bank for 2 years (till 2020).
Due to personal reason left job at end of 2020.
Trained in SAP FICO, now trying for certification.
How could she get into IT company(fresher).Capgemini IBM Tata Consultancy
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What is the onboarding process in Accenture.?
Hi Fishes,
I have applied for BNP Paribas, Command center lead role from LinkedIn. Though it is only 3 days,I didnt receive any updates till now. My only concern is in one post it says no more applications accepted and other post it says actively hiring.
Please help job id BNP022012.
BNP Paribas CIB BNP Paribas
ThAnKs fOr thE HeLpfUL CoNtExT 🙃
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Not just you. The women who have children but did not leave were forced to tough it out under unreasonable circumstances and they expect you to as well. I once had a female partner mock me for wanting to be home in time to celebrate the first night of Hanukkah with my then six month old. There was nothing urgent going on that day, she just wanted to make fun of me for wanting to leave at 5 so I could spend a holiday with my kid.
It’s brutal out there. Ignore it and do what’s best for you.
Women who have been through it before with easy pregnancies will probably be the least understanding.
This is my current experience. Women who either could not or chose not to have children are just as awful.
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I actually spoke about this to one of the women partners I work with who absolutely never mentioned or made any accommodation for my pregnancy (that I was aware of).
Her response was that she felt she was sidelined and treated with a lot of condescension when she was pregnant and she had every intention of continuing to treat me the same way I’ve always been treated, as a very capable associate. Her view is that this was the ideal way to be treated while pregnant.
I don’t really agree with that approach, but the absolute intense ambitious gunner mentality a lot of partners have probably leads some of them to think they’re doing you a favor by continuing to treat you the same way they otherwise would.
And there is some truth to that, in the sense that women do sometimes get frozen out or unfairly treated as incapable while pregnant. Obviously, there’s some balance there, but I get this perspective to some extent.
Yes, this is definitely part of the narrative, but I've also found that this approach can be damaging to associates. To me, it's best to lead with questions. Which is "What's going to work for you during this transition? How do you want us to support? How do you envision this being implemented?" If it's feasible, happy to move forward. If it isn't, we can strategize on alternative approaches.
Why would women be held to a different standard than men?
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Because in this context I would presume women have had either a first hand experience being pregnant themselves or at the very least have heard a lot more first person accounts from their friends who did go through pregnancy?
It's very possible. Are they much older or without kids?
A5 - I'm surprised. I wonder what her husband thought. Google says some airlines do not allow pregnant women to fly after 36 weeks.
Yea that’s common
I unfortunately experienced this too. I was very surprised. The partner moms in my office barely acknowledged my pregnancy, while the male partners were really happy for me.
I’m lucky to work with mostly really great supportive people, both genders. The couple times I’ve come up against unreasonable expectations and comments have also been split evenly across genders. Go figure.
awww what a sweet man!!
Not just you. It's the industry. Big Law is toxic, and there are very few people who actually keep the human side of what we do alive. There's also a reason why female attorneys in BigLaw tend to have babies as relatively senior associates and partners (you can control a bit more of the schedule and delegate because people are not understanding).