So I am paired with a co-teacher who undermines me all the time. I'm a veteran teacher and the other person is on year 2. Inappropriate comments, letting the kids do whatever they want against my directives, it's starting to affect my physical and emotional health. Anyone relate? I know what I have to do but this is very uncomfortable . 😳

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

I understand your frustration. Co-teaching isn’t any an easy assignment. I would encourage you to set an appointment to meet with your administrator and discuss boundaries and working agreements with your co-teacher. The students are the one’s suffering. They notice everything. Hold fast to your expectations and establish norms in the classroom.
Also, look forward to next school year and request another co-teacher.

like

Yes I am concerned about the students . My number one priority !

likesmart

I can totally. Some of my worst experiences in teaching have been co teaching. Everything will turn out fine. Document everything and report it.

like

I have found myself in a similar situation where my co-teacher is a veteran teacher; I taught general education and honors classes before moving into my special education role. She would not let me grade or teach and at one point I was told not to speak to the general education students. I sat down and had an honest conversation with her about how I am certified to teach general education as well and reviewed our county guidelines on coteaching. We have since come to an understanding, where I just inform her when I am grading or providing individualized instruction. We keep each other in the loop now, but do what we feel is best for each student in our class.

like
Recent IconRecent

Let me be clear; NO person, newbie or not, should be making you uncomfortable. Three years ago a first year teacher destroyed our team; the science teacher left after I returned from a COVID absence; the math teacher would weep in the hallway because newbie would tell him how to run his class. MY punishment was a subtle attempt to get my first period to mutiny because I stuck to the rules and refused to do what SHE wanted. My clap back was NOT subtle, and I continued teaching and maintaining law and order. Soon, she lost control and spent most of the day yelling or complaining about how they behaved for ME but not for HER whenever our team moved through the hallways. She even went so far as to bait students into misbehaving, but they KNEW better, and I didn’t have a problem telling her to leave them alone. When administrators asked me to intervene with the students on her behalf, I refused and didn’t have a problem telling them WHY.
Do NOT allow ANYONE to make you feel uncomfortable. Next time your nemesis makes an inappropriate comment, CORRECT HER ON THE SPOT. She will get the message unless she is dense.

likesmart

HE dense. 🫢

like

I can't imagine undermining a veteran teacher like that. Where's the respect? I imagine the emotional toll is real. You know your stuff, and someone newer should respect that. I’m rooting for you as you take the next steps.

like

I am amazed when a new teacher has the gall to be like that. I experienced that when I was teaching in another district. The teacher and I didn't teach the same thing but she was good at telling everybody what they should do or not. She was a triple minor (and later struggled for Real teaching employment) and didn't hesitate to complain about her colleague. She even busted in on my interview when we went to the teacher fair together. She was music and I art. I asked a veteran teacher about her and she said that she just ignore her. This person would tell the kids that they and I would be doing a painting activity with my second school kids that I hadn't plan on spending that kind of free time on. I would find out from the kids not from her. I made her come and help me with painting the second school and she couldn't paint. Letting paint run in places it shouldn't. How dare you have that kind of nerve!

like

Pull your seniority card, explain through your experience, and put your foot down. Explain to them when they teach solo they can do as they wish.

like

I take it you’ve tried talking to your co-teacher yourself and gotten nowhere? I guess I was lucky, I got to pick my co-teacher, and we get along well. However, most co-taught classes at my school don’t work nearly as well as they should, with co teachers getting pulled out and IEPs going unsupported.

like

Apt description; it so is! I’ve been there.

like

So, Master Teacher, the 2 year teacher says,I have no idea what I am doing. What I do know how to do is manipulate a crowd to do my will.1.Have some fun with it.Put kids on different teams.2. Let them give their teams a name.Ex. Comets or Rockets 3.Assign campus & classroom rules to be followed.4.Say, if you don’t abide by the rules 20 pts. will be deducted each time a rule is broken.Ignoring me & the rules hurts the team.Play academic games to add points.Ex.Reviewing spelling words or times tables. Winning team gets a 100 pts. Per team member.End of week reward winning team however you want.Ex. Pizza or toy or candy from gift bag.On Monday start over with each team getting 1000 pts. To start the week.This cancels her altogether cus she will be hurting the team with her foolishness. They will look at each other and say, NOT TODAY?!?!

like

Um have you been visiting my class ?

I’m sorry. It’s so hard to let it play out as you know it will. Their character will become obvious over time and they will lose any and all respect from the students and their peers. But in the meantime your reputation takes a hit.

I encourage you to “go high while they go low” for as long as you can. My best wishes to you. The good leaders will see your skill and appreciate what you are doing. The only ones who fall for this are the weak and unskilled, but most of them will come around as this kind of cheap pandering shows itself to be hollow.

I will disagree with some here who are encouraging getting an admin to intervene. If you need someone else to step in, then you are going to not have as strong a payoff for what you will learn and grow otherwise through this experience. It also means that it will be that much harder to reach the point with your collegue of being the person that can help them. If you go to the admin, then the admin is the potential mentor that you could be. But holding on and leading are both emotionally draining.

like

Nah. You’re thinking short term. If you play the short game, you are constantly reacting and subject to the current winds as they blow.

Principles. Figure them out and stand on them. If you plan to stick around and have some principles, it doesn’t matter what people say about you. Their lies and character will be revealed in time. And so will yours.

I agree with you about documenting though. That is great advice.

like

Sounds about right fresh out of college and think they know everything new teachers I know we need them but they could use a little humility. Sorry you have to go through this. I hope this situation is only for this year and you don’t have to continue in the next year.

like

This is just a thought, not sure of the dynamics going on, but I am wondering if she may not be sure who is supposed to be doing the correcting of behavior or implementation of task? Is it clear who is responsible for stepping in to redirect misbehaviors and so forth? IF everyone is clear the expectations and procedures and who is responsible for certain tasks then I would definitely speak up sooner than later. This would be a difficult and challenging situation, annoying! You have every right to speak up, as a veteran teacher you know what you are doing.

like

Speak up

like

Also don't be completely afraid of a little self-reflection. Are there areas where you could compromise a little on classroom management or structure, without sacrificing anything but your own comfort. Some teachers are more firm others run a looser ship, both can be successful. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone. Not accusing you of this but it can be equally hard for a new teacher Co-teaching with a "my way or the highway" veteran as the opposite.

like

No doubt if you've done your part that's all you can do. Just never want to pass up the opportunity to re-evaluate myself when confronted with a problem. Most often you leave the experience vindicated but every now and then I have to admit I could have done something different.

like

My advice is to try and work it out with your co-teacher first before involving anyone else to avoid hurt feelings. Then if that doesn’t work, involve someone else.

like

Inform admin that you will not be co-teaching next year. She is probably co-teaching because she can not handle the class alone.

like

Is it possible that because you are a veteran, you are inflexible and it has to be your way or the highway? “So, I got paired with…” You used the word directives—what the hell? What adult gives another adult directives?
Mathematics is all about exploration and finding out different ways to do something—not commanding an empire.
For the rest of you saying new teachers should always be following veteran teachers, etc—evolve or die off cause we are seeing generations that ask why and just don’t parrot rote.

funny

Wow. Pat S. Super offensive, or just slightly offensive. Maybe practice what you preach: “Explore” your rhetoric and consider “finding out different ways” to get along with “veteran” teachers who have much more experience, strength, and hope to offer than you clearly do. Just sayin’ not a directive.

Usually it’s the other way around. The co-teacher is disrespecting you, trying to push you out. Are you close to retirement? I think it’s time you and your director have a chat.

Related Posts

Can you negotiate a higher salary if you get a change management and pmp certification?

like

What is hike and bonus percentage year on year and for avg rated person (assuming 3 as avg)

like
like

Guys, If salary & all perks are equal then which place is best for job working.
Ahmedabad or Goa, in terms of living, quality life, opportunities etc.

Please sincere replies.

like

I recently interviewed with Natwest and I got confirmation that they wanted to offer a role. Salary negotiations were started. However, now I got an email from the hiring manager that hiring for my role has been paused due to the ongoing cost of living crisis. He expects to resume the hiring for the role in Q1 '23 and would resume the process then. So is it the end? Honestly, I don't expect him to come back. But what do you think?

like

What is the Apta test in hsbc ? How difficult it is?

Wendys twitter interactions are pure gold.

like

Is IB worth the sacrifice of WLB? Obvious pay is really good but are the prestige and pay worth it if you’re planning on only doing it for a couple years?

Currently working at an IRA with great WLB. Honestly I love my job, the firm, and people I work with.

Also doing MBA part time at a T15 school. Thinking about switching to IB but I’ve done my research and I think I would burn out of IB in two years but I might be ok with that for the opportunities after.

like

Hello folks,

How does everyone save tax
I'm aware about 80C, nps and home loan interest.

Anything else?

like

Creative director at my agency says he prefers to do all the work himself while leaving very little creative freedom for us designers. He says he "knows what he's doing". I want out but pay is good! Advice?

like

Having serious Monday blues! Who wants to talk and help? 35M in Chicago

like

I am looking for a Functional consultant role in blockchain and metaverse. Please let me know if you can refer me to your organisation.thanks

Are there any good paying weekend research/lab jobs in Austin Texas? Because I’m getting $23/hr as a research coordinator and know for a fact I’m being under paid lol all because I am “new to research” yet I have a bachelors is biology and have done research projects in school and have plenty of other work experience…. Anyways though, back to my question I need a side job to be able to afford ALL of my bills 🙂

like

How many of you fishes have yet to step foot in an Accenture office? Thoughts on going back?

like

If you ever get a chance, invest in a tailor-made suit. They really are worth it.

like

Hi Fishes,

Looking for a job referral for Production Support L2/L3 role.
I have 6 years of experience.

Do let me know if any openings.

like

Does anyone work for Boehringer Ingelheim? Would love to ask a few questions!

like

Hi Fishes,

Can anyone help the ctc of Associate II in Transfer Pricing department in PWC AC (with 2 years of YoE)? Is there city wide difference?

like

Hi,
As of now I got into PIP so does it indirectly means that i will be fired.?

Additional Posts in Teachers

@McGraw Hill any idea on salary for academic design roles ?

likehelpful

Esperanza Rising Resources. Have you used this book in the classroom? Can you share your resources? This book has so much about culture, migration, geography, etc. I may use to teach with Social Studies. Share links, resources, Teacher Pay Teacher ideas, etc. Thanks In Advance

like

Today Pfizer announced that trials show that their vaccine is 100% effective for teens ages 12-15. Do you think most of our students will get it for next year?

likehelpful

Anyone here ever been to RCA? Is it worth it ?

like

I want to get middle school cert (for ELA) My degree is K-8. My current cert. & EdTPA is K-5. What's the quickest & easiest path to middle school certification?! (I'm in TN, specifically Sumner Co.)

like

What are y’all thinking about Kanye West/Ye?
Adidas following others dropped him today for his consistent anti-Jewish stance.

Are your students talking about it?

likefunny

Side gigs. What do you do to supplement your income (besides marry for money)? I bartender but that’s taken a hit with Covid. Thinking about some kind of tutoring set up.

likefunny

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal