The same technologies that have enabled Tech workers to work from home also permit Tech employers to move your job overseas to cheaper employees. It happened to me. Be careful of what you wish for.

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We can lose our job, we must be able to work and stay relevant.

I’m one of those remote people you lose work to, and I myself can get replaced by other lower-salaried remote workers from my country as well as from other countries, or even by AI.

I think of what I should be doing five or ten years from now and then move toward that on a daily basis.

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AI can’t replace you yet. The problem is…employers haven’t realized this yet. Let hope they do before AI really does become self aware and can truly “think” and “reason”. Damnit I used to love those terminator movies! Check please.

Just because you go into the office doesn't guarantee that you won't lose your job either. Whether you work on site, remote, or hybrid, everyone is replaceable.

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True - you must remain competitive by improving your skills, training, and education to remain important to your employer. Doing this allowed me to be continuously employed for 35 years in Tech dodging many, many layoffs. My boss told me I was indispensable during COVID and pushed hard to raise my pay to keep me. After COVID, I was given the boot because they hired a lower cost headcount in Eastern Europe. My years of work with them meant nothing when it came to saving money on headcount costs.

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Such technologies have been around for at least 20 years.

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On a more big picture scale, hopefully Trump carries through on his America First promises and heavily taxes and/or incentivizes keeping jobs in America while also curbing the massive H1-B visa fraud and abuse.

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To Data Engineer 1: Finally, some common ground. I feel you are correct that the H1B visa program is not the scam, but that the scam is how corporate policies are geared to minimize compensation to those in the program and drive down compensation for their US counterparts. Scam, divide and conquer. But those who have benefitted from or advised by those who are benefitting from the program are woefully unfit to police the program, in my opinion.

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Work for a small company, that’s how you make sure you aren’t out of a job to those people. Yall love your big salaries but you’re also targets on your backs to be the first to let go. If I was a exec you’d be the first to get cut

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Senior Software Engineer 1 no I am not. Depends on the nature of the work.

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YOu must make yourself indispensable

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That's not always possible. I lost an incredibly talented person on my team because he was in the "wrong" location and an EVP made an uninformed decision. My Sr. Director and I tried to get on the EVP's calendar to try to keep my team member, but by the time we could get in front of her, the layoff had already happened.

These decisions are often made by people at the top of the org. If you're in a large global company, those people often do not know anyone below the VP or Sr Director level.

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Everyone is replaceable. If you aren’t going to be replaced, you will eventually get cut as a “tough” cost saving maneuver. Everyone is responsible for their own career. The best you can do is to diversify your skills. You are trading your labor for money regardless of what type of socio-economic/political environment you are in.

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Same here, Global Services PM. I'm glad I am of retirement age and can leave at any time. I'd like to stick around for a few more years, but am also prepared to retire if I am not offered that option. So far, so good, but you never know.

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Seems somewhat of an ok fair game until management is no longer American and foreign workers get chosen over you just because they are foreign.

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I've been seeing this as well

Well right. Then you gotta be good at what you do for the price you charge at a global scale. Which still can be beneficial for people in the states in LCoL areas. Benefits me since I’m in a manufacturing town in Michigan and the employers here haven’t had external competition for workers for quite some time so their wages are depressed.

Well yes. That’s how turnover works and corporations may learn their lesson and knock on your door to come back. Has happened to me with former employers who’ve fired me. Many times actually

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Stop crying and do something that actually will make an impact on this world. The whole landscape will surely change one day - overseas workers or not. I have been unemployed for 12 months now and trying to do what i do best. still trying everyday and my day will soon come.

You're right - crying about it does no good. I mainly raise the point that we US-based workers are on notice that the job landscape has changed and likely permanently. Retooling your skills/education for high demand jobs is the only answer.

companies have and will always outsource; but perhaps the remote work has increased this a bit as well. I lost my job of 11 years to find out they hired 4 overseas workers to replace me and still paid less

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