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I saw some business writers a while back saying we're experiencing a white-collar recession. That seems about right, the general economic numbers are pretty good, and have been for the past few years. But a lot of companies, especially tech companies, seem wary of doing much hiring. I guess everyone was hoping and assuming things would pick up in the new year, but now with all the talk of tariffs and other upcoming economic chaos, that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
Well sure the difference in salary between blue collar and white collar is about $65-100k rightfully so.
The disconnect is that the overall market can be performing well even if one sector is performing badly. Not every industry experiences the same cycles at the same time. If you were looking for healthcare jobs, you would think the jobs market was good.
256K tech jobs or just jobs? Tech has had an extreme amount of growth in the past 4 years. It's leveling off and the 256K jobs are probably sectors not Tech.
Indeed the over hiring was all the way up to the end of 2023 it seems because last year focused on many layoffs and so far 2025 seems to be posting some positions now.
The "Trump bump" in corporate confidence hasn't made it's way to leftist tech companies yet. Give it another 6-18 months for improvement to real GDP, and tech will come back (as it always does).
there’s a lot of fake jobs out there. ever see linkedin postings over half a yr old? they’re just collecting resumes and possibly meet some regulatory requirements
Are these 256k tech jobs?
Overall job adds doesn't necessarily correlate to tech jobs. It wouldn't surprise me if tech job adds are reducing because of AI -- both in practical terms of AI replacing real people and in terms of tech execs slowing hiring with the belief AI will fill the roles eventually.
And yet nobody seems to be seriously talking about AI taking white collar jobs. Not the way people responded to automation threatened to take blue collar jobs. We should be talking unionization or other job protections.
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Based on growth of population, new graduates and new 18 year olds we need roughly 250,000 jobs A MONTH on average just to maintain the same participation rate.
So 256k doesn't impress, it's treading water.
The IT hiring process is rough though, it's largely a broken system at this point.