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Do companies give notice to people before they fire them? Notice is a courtesy that employers have to earn.
I second this.
Way too many companies in recent years have become comfortable with treating their employees as expendable labor, so I’m not surprised about the working force matching energy these days.
When people leave a job without giving a two-week notice, there is usually a lot to unpack. If you are constantly scrambling for coverage, the real question should not be, “Why don’t people want to work?” The better question is, “Why don’t people want to work here?”
High turnover, call-outs, and employees leaving without notice are usually symptoms of a deeper issue. Too often, companies confuse accountability with micromanaging, pressure, or workplace bullying. If employees are showing up, giving their all, and still feel like they are being watched, criticized, or treated as replaceable, they eventually check out.
People want to work where they feel respected, supported, and secure. When they do not feel safe in their job stability or valued by leadership, they stop investing in the company. So if management is always scrambling, it is time to look at the root cause instead of blaming the symptoms.
Ultimately, in management, you own your results. If employees are quitting without notice or refusing to pick up shifts, that is not just an employee problem. That is a system, culture, and leadership problem.
Remember, employees often quit locations and management, not the industry.
People don't get notice when they get fired. If you want people to stay or at least give 2 week notices before quitting you need to create an environment that makes them believe the respect you want actually is extended to them as well. Employees are starting to treat companies the way companies have treated employees forevahhhhhh.
Im gonna be a bit brutally honest but your tone/attitude in this post is a big flag as to why you, as well as MANY businesses, are facing this issue with the work force. People aren't "just done working" or "like this"; the workforce is tired of slaving for companies that don't give us any respect or consideration. Like many said, we don't get a 2 week notice when we're fired, you find our replacements have us train them and then send us on our way. Most likely your employees are finding another place of employment (your replacement) before we walk away (fire you as our employer). Employer's have been treating the work force as expendable labor for YEARS, the workforce is just returning the energy you put out.
This happened to me at one of my positions. I was an assistant manager but also our main bartender and I could run the floor by myself if I had to. GM got fired and replaced, the other AM got fired. New GM wanted me to be more of a manager, less of a bartender so I trained the AMs replacement while at the exact same time training another bartender to help cover some of my bar hours. As soon as they were both out of training he fired me over the phone; "We don't want to go forward with your vibe" was all I was told.
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Giving two weeks notice is a professional courtesy, but is NOT required. Unless you are creating the most ideal conditions, which it sounds like you’re not, your gripe about lack of notice is not warranted. Not every employee has had a good experience, why would they give a company who creates an unpleasant environment the courtesy of notice? If you created a good enough environment as a leader, your team would at least give you some notice, even if it’s not two full weeks. Maybe reevaluating you and the company’s treatment of the workers would be the course of action, as it seems like you have high turnover, without notice quitting 🤔
You have a problem retaining employees, not a problem with employees leaving
I was a professional who was honest and worked in my company for 10 years. Until my dear company quietly sold out full building together with me and my team and left us all behind to a new owners who had zero interest to keep us there. I was unfairly dismissed when I took my 11 days break . I received a very funny WhatsApp text on a 6th day from my co-worker who is not even related to the hiring process at all. (She was dismissed a few days later as well by the way). Not an official notice from my manager or boss like it should be. Without any compensation. I've seen more bad stuff in 4 months with them than in 10 years of work with my original company. I came there on my due day and spoke with the manager and boss face to face. They hide their eyes and mourmour "we were thinking you're not gonna come back here" . It's a very professional attitude towards workers isn't it? I was the last one who's gone after I have shown them our working structure and trained their staff . What do you think about my experience?
I think your experience perfectly highlights how the workforce is tired of giving a professional courtesy/respect when we aren't given any in return. Im betting most of those people who "are just done working" didn't quit just to sit at home. They found other jobs and left as soon as they could start. People aren't becoming "lazy" or "don't want to work" we want to work where we're respected, not treated like slaves
There's many times where you put in a two weeks and they either refuse to schedule or can you early, employers expect company loyalty without earning it or showing that loyalty in return, so its easier to just leave and take a hit on a recommendation. Even if it is a hit there, most people already have something lined up when they do quit, so it's normally a moot point.
How much notice do YOU give when you fire someone?
Do YOU give THEM two weeks notice?
Or do you just cut their hours, hoping they quit?
What you GIVE is what you GET.
Terminations are ALSO a choice.
Most resignations dont come out of nowhere, either.
An employee that resigns has been unhappy in that job for a LONG time.
Poor management, poor working conditions and employers expecting employees to work for less than it costs to live.
Any competent manager should be able to SEE these things well in advance.
We return to the question. How much notice do YOU give employees when terminating them?
Do you cut the hours of emplyees that DO give you notice?
And then wonder why it goes both ways.
You're lucky to get a call, at all.
When people HAVE jobs, they DON'T LOOK for jobs. They only look for another job when you've already pissed them off, thoroughly and completely, probably REPEATEDLY.
It's a generational thing. These kids mostly still live with their parents. They want a job ...but don't need one. So they are less likely to take any criticism on their work ethic. They are on their phones during the shift. Playing games or posting nonsense. Hire more seasoned individuals...instead of pretty or cute faces and you will find the results you need.
If you have a good employer you’d be suprised what these pretty faces can do sorry yours might be insufficient to your likings but we can work twice as hard if the boss gives a shit… also what season do you prefer on said individuals?
Do you give your employees notice when you fire them? Why should they give you notice if you wouldn’t do the same for them? Where is your professionalism, these people have to make a living and support their families same as you. Maybe have some empathy and figure out what you’re doing wrong that is making people want to leave your establishment so bad…
Anyone hiring I need a job I'm homeless trying to look for anything at this point please someone hit me up 🙏🙏😞
Ultimately it's the company culture that determines if I give notice when leaving. Did they treat me fairly, did I feel valued as a member of the team, did my upper management appreciate my contributions, all these are factors. Point in case, I have been managing F&B for 30 years, worked for a company that came off great during the interview process. Only to find out as time went on they had no value for their team you were employee #8765, had unrealistic work expectations, upper management talked down to everyone, very rigid on scheduling and we had 6 managers, we all took care of each other when needed. At the end of the day I walked out mid shift, I was not valued. Some of my team is still there, the company is struggling to find replacements for the position I left. You must stand up for yourself when the culture is to turn and burn helpful people.
If staffing is your problem then the work environment isn’t good, and if people aren’t giving notices it speaks more on the employers relationship with the employee.
In my experience people only leave notice if they care about who they work for or want to not burn bridges
Managers usually do not terminate out of nowhere. They usually, coach, document, warn and provide opportunities for improvement. These serve as a heads up for the employee in question. In my experience, employees who need to provide usually perform well, in contrast, employees with no true obligations outside of work tend to perform poorly. Point being before they are fired, they do receive a heads up, and if they are being fired, usually it’s within good reason. Lastly, if multiple employees are quitting without notice, it’s come down to a work culture issue that needs to be addressed, and it starts with leadership.