Being left off calls/emails? I am a third year but lateraled to a new firm 5 months ago. I don’t think it’s been a regular thing, but it happened today where I wasn’t on the first email chain for a conference call invite and no one forwarded it to me despite it being called to someone’s attention. Does this ever happen to anyone else or is there an issue with me…

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Maybe they just thought it wasn’t necessary for you to be on ghat specific call. I wouldn’t take it personally unless it’s routine.

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I’ve been there. It’s my experience that usually this is just an oversight, and sometimes the primary attorney handling just doesn’t feel like you need to be looped in for that particular discussion (or if the client has started to gripe about fees). If you’re worried about it, just talk to the partners you work with and express that you would like to be included on all calls as it helps you better understand the deal.

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Agree with everyone else.

Also, some clients are fee sensitive and don’t want a lot of lawyers on each call (or the partner may just want to manage fees for this client and figured that they would catch you up after more efficiently).

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I don't think it's you. Some partners just don't or forget to copy associates. It's not a great way to work, but everyone has their quirks that we pretty much have to put up with.

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I’m the most senior associate on a deal and this has happened to me 3 times. Sometimes the people sending the invite are just dumb.

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If this happened to me I’d just be grateful for the break honestly

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Even better if I got the invite but then was told not to join. I leave it on my calendar anyway so it shows up as a conflict if anyone tries to schedule me for anything.

Clients do not want a bunch of people on calls - even if it’s justified the bills look bad and we’d want you to write your time entry in other ways that suggest adding value

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