Do your firms tell you when people are about to be fired? Mine does and I don’t know how I feel about it. They’re not even layoffs but actually merit-based terminations.

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Nope. I don’t hear about it ahead of time unless the person themself shares. Even after-the-fact, there isn’t any announcement (whether someone is fired or quits—unless they head in-house). I just suddenly get email bounces or see their name missing from their office door.

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No. I’ve never heard of that.
Did they tell you who? Or how many?
Or just: some people will be fired soon because they are bad at their jobs but we won’t tell you who?

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No. It’s not verbatim, but along the lines of what you said.

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I’ve heard of associates being put on PIPs before. It’s a a chance for you to get yourself out of whatever hole you’re in (whether it’s hours, quality of work, responsiveness, etc). Some have successfully course corrected. Others don’t and were let go. Depending upon the size of your firm, the partners you work with may not even know you’re on one (which can be frustrating if the associate is eventually let go). If you don’t think you can course correct, the only good thing is that they’re giving you a heads up to find something else before you’re terminated. If it happens, negotiate being on the website (if you are) for past your termination date (like six months) and agree on what HR can say if they’re called to confirm employment

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No. Our firm just puts them on PIP. Also, it’s always merit based (allegedly).

Seems very common for my firm and the other firm. Both are big law firms. I am in Texas. Both try to keep it on the down low.

OP—my first big law firm did, but only within the department. A partner called me in (I was an associate then) and with respect to two other associates, one was more senior than I was, the other junior. I was told they “were being asked to find a new home.” That was the exact phrase. I got it completely with respect to the first, the second was a complete surprise (he was an excellent lawyer). A colleague who had just been elevated to junior partner speculated that the junior associate got caught up in the senior associate’s “shitstorm.” It was kind of interesting that I saw the senior’s being fired coming so I distanced myself from him as much as I could. For those associates out there—be judicious about whom you work with if you can! I could totally tell that the senior associate was on his way out and acted accordingly.

Management knows and if you know someone in management you may find out who.

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