For VP's and up tasked with originating deals, how much prospecting (cold calling, emailing) for new sell-side candidates do you do? What's your hit rate? Or do you largely rely on referrals and existing/long term relationships the firm has to win new business?

I'm at a small boutique. Hit rate on prospecting has been very low despite multiple outreach attempts. Been a VP for less than a year. I know this takes time, but starting to get discouraged.

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I closed one deal earlier this year, but pipeline is very light now. Can't get sellers on the phone.

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Cold starts are usually not where we get most of our hits from. Typically it’s relying on what we already have and trying to expand from there. I do have to say overall this year numbers have been down across the board, so we very well may need to recalculate our approach really soon.

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Appreciate this response. Makes total sense and we experience the same. My issue is that I'm covering a sector that our firm hasn't done many deals in historically and that we are trying to grow, so our existing relationships are limited. I don't have a director or MD working above me either for support on origination, which doesn't help.

How small is small?

Don’t put too much pressure on yourself, it’s a tough market out there! I tend to do about 0.5 days a week of it, but my sector focus is very niche so can get a few hits.

Find brand is very important in opening doors, so the smaller you are the tougher it is.

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Appreciate this, SVP1. It is a tough market. We have less than 25 people, so small. Most of our sell-side deals are sub-$150mm, but we've done some larger.

Our brand is very strong in a couple other sectors, but less so in the sector I'm covering, which I've been tasked with growing.

Generally, unless your bank/firm has an incredibly strong brand (I.e Goldman, MS, other BB/EB), cold calling is going to have a super low hit rate because it’s hard to establish credibility or simply get someone to pick up the phone.

Don’t get discouraged!

I work for a strong bank with a good name and we have people that screen calls.

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100% - Referrals are the best way because you get validated

Go to events/industry conferences. As a VP you carry weight in your title - see if you can speak at events/provide thought leadership. Write articles on M&A in that particular field for industry association/publication.

The above will also help your cold calling hit ratio because your name will be recognized more.

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