Getting kind of frustrated with survey demographics that, like, separate out "transgender" as the third option to men and women 🤦🏽

Is anyone out there doing a good job of describing how to do that decently? Or is that something I need to write myself? Lol

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*extra note for those not familiar with this annoyance:
Transmen are men.
Transwomen are women.

They're not some weird "other."

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HRC has some guidance on this, thinking it’s explicitly asking if this is the gender you were born with maybe? But it’s much better than what you just said. I am passionate about trying to be as thoughtful as possible around capturing this type of information. It’s so frustrating.

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I don't think there's any issue with asking if you're cisgender or transgender for the right reasons, but I don't know if it should be the default.

Like you're more likely to get my purchasing behaviors from my income than if I were to say I was trans.

What does your source say on it?

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I see these surveys and I have to ask myself if the researchers are actually going to do something with this data or is this more of a "PC" thing... While it might show trends or other information you weren't planning on collecting, it feels very dismissive. I think it would be better to ask prior that is "are you cisgender, transgender or gender non-conforming?" And then ask male, female and "other" (I know this can have other connotations but because the gender spectrum is so vast, this should be a space to input how an individual identifies.

I know this was a point of contention at University in one of my research courses and when I kept pressing, the department head stated there wasn't enough information to instruct on how to be gender inclusive in survey collection. I know my friend (who is trans) is working hard in the medical field to create trans-inclusive patient care courses because there are few, if any, across the country.

So a long way of answering your question 😅 there is a lot of opportunity to expand on teaching more inclusive ways but if it isn't brought up, companies/organizations have no incentive to teach themselves.

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Right like I'd consider myself non binary and I see lots of people throwing around words like "gender non conforming" and I'm like??

You can be a cis woman who wears pants and be considered gender non conforming (though that's maybe a bad example)

But all cisgender means is that you are still the gender you were assigned at birth and transgender means you're a different one. That's all :)

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Within my work I do male/female (so that we have something to weight against) and then dig into transgender question

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I feel like if there is man/woman and then you ask if transgender there should also be a cis box. So you have to tick two boxes.

If that helps identify how many trans people in an organisation so they can up diversity in my mind that's okay.

But there should also be a nb box.

And for full marks a self-identification ______ box.

Although I've had people ask what I identify as and I jokingly said "earthling" because of how non-specific the question was. When they started to write it down I had to tell them it was a joke and ask if they meant my gender lol

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