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I was just offered a CUNY role. The title is Higher Education Assistant. According to Glassdoor, the average annual pay for that role is $83,418. However, I was offered $62,500. I requested for the minimum annual salary to be 75k. Does anyone have experience navigating the CUNY system and their pay?
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Do some research, don’t go in blind. Use resources like salary.com and Glassdoor to get a sense of the worth of your role. When they make an offer, counter with something near the top of the posted range. Let them push back on you. They expect you to negotiate.
Honestly, yeah, I think you can negotiate even for your first job, just gotta do it respectfully, not aggressively. If they're already putting an offer together, that means they want you, so a polite ask isn't gonna scare them off.
I'd start by saying thanks and showing you're excited, then just ask if there's any wiggle room on comp. Doesn't need to sound like a demand, something like "I'm really excited about this and appreciate the offer based on what I've seen out there, is there any flexibility to get closer to X?"
And for a first job, keep the ask reasonable. Also don't forget you can negotiate stuff besides salary signing bonus, start date, training budget, remote work, PTO, all that. A good company isn't gonna drop you over a polite ask.
I would suggest asking in the most humble way possible, “are you open to this range of pay?” Based on their answer.. thank them for working with you and express your eagerness to add value to the team that is already in place.
I am a big proponent of negotiating but for a first role I would not.
You don’t have much to stand on. You aren’t leaving money on the table from a prior job. You aren’t moving. You don’t have tangible skills in the market. All you have is potential
Unless you have research to show you are been offering under market value or you have multiple offers, then go for it. Absent of those then take the role learn and build a foundation
If youre making the industry standard it may or may not be worthwhile. Some orgs will and smaller ones may not and will tell you to kick rocks. If youre doing somtbing hard to find you've got more leverage, so make that determintion. If its me and the salary is the same as other entry levels at other similar sized companies that I can find data for on glassdoor etc. Im accepting the offer right there. At this point time in is more important than salary if it is solid.
I would always ask, can i ask the salary budget for this role please
You can and should do what is called nibbling. For instance tell them the salary is fine but you need an extra week of vacation or other perks they can manage
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Use Robert half based on your role, job title and location and use that for negotiating.
The first thing you do is after they say congrats is “can you please send me the offer, I’d like to review the details”
Do not rush back, I’d give it at least 12 hours, message the recruiter and jump on a call. When you get on say “hello, I’m really excited to join ABC company but I wanted to confirm if this offer is negotiable?” Now say nothing!!
They’ll let you know right away whether it’s yes or no.
If yes, say “based on my research, experience and local cost of living Robert half (or other source) notes average pay is 65,000 for this role” Say nothing!
If they don’t want to match it say “ok, how close to 65k can you get?”
This will allow you to try and get the maximum amount while remaining respectful and being well researched.
Good luck, you got this - and go negotiate that offer. Congrats!! 🎉
Yes risk it.
Do a little homework on the company of interest. Glassdoor.com will commonly provide salary scales for specific job titles in that company, as well as other valuable information from former employees.