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My kids don't even have a phone or personal laptop yet and they're about the same age group as yours. So they don't really use these chatbots as much. I guess this is something I'll have to start worrying about when my kids are a little older but I'm not sure how I can monitor their usage.
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This is the best thing you could have done for them
Imagine having this attitude when the Internet or the calculator was introduced.
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I mean there's a reason why math was taught even though there were calculators around. It's about learning how to think
I totally get where you're coming from. I think the trick is helping kids learn to use AI as a tool, not a shortcut. I let my daughter use ChatGPT, too, but we talk through the answers together, ask why something works, and think about how she could do it differently.
Since AI is going to be part of their world, I figure it's better to teach them how to think critically with it rather than just banning it.
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Exactly, they should use AI as an augmentation to their thinking rather than as a replacement
Mine aren't old enough for this to be an issue yet, so I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I'm sure they'll be exposed to it at school, but I don't get the sense their teachers will be pushing it as an alternative to doing their own work.
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Interesting
Don’t stop them, help them use it creatively! They write a Paper then analyze them persuasive style. Use chat to change the persuasive framework. as it what’s gaps in the viewpoints? How would a skeptic view their paper or approach..
They can be more creative with ai if you think outside the box.
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But you need to push them to develop critical thinking, which is very hard with pervasive AI tools
Good luck. I do wonder how the next generation will learn skills given tools. I’m sure similar thoughts came up internet - but that evolution took many years.
AI will require a whole new way of teaching, virtually overnight. whole new skill sets will be needed to work in the future, I’m not sure anyone knows how at this point.
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Definitely
I have to agree with you on that. Everyone is using Chat GPT to write papers, to do the work for them. We barely had computers when I was growing up. I mean the dial up was so slow that you didn't want to have to use the computer haha.
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But I'm sure thinking for yourself has made you a much better critical thinker
You have a strong point. It's one of my concerns as well.
Where I've landed, is that the hard work is shifting from the actual ideation, to the curation of ideas. At the ages of 10 & 13, use this opportunity to instill in them the importance of discernment.
Not all ideas are created equal. Better questions get better results. And answers can still be applied any number of ways.
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What is the solution?
You can control their screen time, my friend who has a 15 year old gives her 1 hour a day, more for special occasions.
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This is a great way and I think will be more common in the future
If I had kids I would:
- not give them a phone, let them get a job and buy their own $1000 iPhone if they want one
- make them use maps instead of Google so they actually learn directions and streets
- get them into physical hobbies like rebuilding an engine, painting, remote control cars, woodworking and most importantly team sports
- teach them about the mind control techniques used by social media companies and explain that most of their colleagues at school who are on TikTok are going to grow up with addictions, dopamine issues, likely ADD, and will probably be obese blobs from sitting on their ass all day looking at screens
- limit to 6 hrs a week video games
- buy them a camera to start doing their own video production early
Thankfully, I don’t have kids, I would be a hard parent and not put up with their bullshit like my parents did for me
Fair point A2, I don’t have kids. I got this list from one of my best friends who has raised his daughter this way and she is worlds ahead of her cohort. She is in AP classes as a freshman, on 2 varsity sports teams, has a side hustle making money online and when we hang out, it’s like being with another adult instead of a 15 year old. My friend struggles because the daughter’s friends are all soft spoiled brats with no discipline attached to their phones eating shit food and complaining about the coach who makes them actually strength and endurance train.
Seems like it’s easy to have a strong kid if you actually parent them instead of yielding to this society of food and social media addicts.
To your point, I don’t have kids so I’m sure there are nuances and I am over simplifying
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I think you need to push them to develop reasoning and critical thinking skills so that they're not hamstrung whenever they don't have access to AI