So I'm confused...recruiters always use "internal equity" as an excuse for keeping salary offers low. But new hires often make more than current employees...so this is just another lie right?

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Internal is almost always cheaper to hire for an open role. External hires make the comp have to compete in the market, which is almost always more than internal mobility.

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