To anyone at Amazon: do Amazonians really live out the leadership principles? Or is it just a front to look good to potential candidates?

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Take this with a grain of salt because I don't work at the company anymore, but I will say that there is a lot of pressure from corporate to maintain high standards. But I also think it's a pretty individual thing. You'll see some leaders who obviously really care about improving the company and the lives of their employees. And you see others who obviously got there by being good at talking.

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This is very insightful. Thanks for sharing

There is a heavy emphasis on it, but context always matters. If you read them closely, you'll find that some can be contradictory. Job descriptions heavily align with them

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People conveniently use the LP to support their agendas.

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In my experience, a handful of people actually drank the Kool aid and truly believed in the leadership principles. Others just used them as weapons. Projects and people are evaluated using them though, so you have to be aware of them and show you are using them, regardless of how you feel about them.

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They are not that unique to Amazon . Do you know of any company doesn’t like to be customer obsessed? Or they don’t like “ownership”?

They are pretty basic and all companies would want their employees to follow those. Amazon just makes it part of day to day vocabulary, feedback process and that’s how people gets recognized

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It is really tough to establish a corporate culture for a large company where tenure is pretty short. Think of LPs as a set of written standards to discipline people from different backgrounds to get the work done.

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If you’re doing your job well you’re doing a lot of them by default…

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Most companies weaponize leadership principles (or whatever they are called at your company)

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Amazon is for anyone that want to participate in it

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I worked at AWS for 5 years and yes, at least for the 2 orgs I worked for they are a real thing. Managers would discuss them and remind the team about their importance and give examples of how they are met in the context of the actual job. On my first day, I was handed a nice print to keep at my desk and they contained the LPs. Most companies have LPs, or similar things but I haven't seen them being taken as seriously anywhere else.

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We definitely do. It’s just more conscious than being at the back of our mind. For example., are we thinking big enough when scoping? Are we exhibiting traits of diving deep when the situation demands it to get the right data points etc

There are SO many leadership principles though - something like 16. Got an interview recently and was told to memorize them for the interviews

Don’t just memorize them. Have stories for each one. This is the # 1 reason people don’t get hired. They don’t follow this guidance.

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People quote them like they’re the Bible or Shakespeare. However, the leadership principles can be twisted in multiple contexts, so you can tell a lot about someone by when and how they choose to invoke them.

They are real for most orgs and yes they are contradictory - they are meant to be so the right thing is based on context. Some use them to abuse people (welcome to nearly any company) but they can be used as good measuring stones for performance.

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