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The levels of immigration over the past few decades which have ratcheted up to ever higher levels are actually the "extremism".
There isn't a single state in history which absorbed this many people so rapidly and lived to tell the tale.
I have many friends outside the UK/Europe/West and they all think it's insane that we thought we could just magic ethnic tensions away.
Europe has fought hard to achieve a certain level of gender equality and safety on the streets. Many people see that if large numbers of people from countries, cultures, or religions where these values are not respected come here without the intention to adapt and adopt european values, this could be put at risk and facts show this concern is real.
I can say that the laws in majority of these Asian African countries are much more strict as compared to UK, Europe or even U.S., whether it be related to thefts or to major crimes. The police in these African Asian countries don’t play around much either, sometimes they are not just but that instills fear in population, police in western world are somewhat a joke
What’s your opinion? Because it feels like a non-so-subtle hint of Islamophobia coming through…
^ this. This is what terrifies me the most
I guess the analogy for this would be introducing non-native trees or animals to a peaceful ecosystem. It wrecks havoc.
Chief
As the old Russian saying goes: It’s all small sh*t compared to WW2. And that was orchestrated by the whitest guys of all time.
I consider myself fairly center and think it’s lunacy what’s happening
You could, but you know what they say about assumptions!
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It’s happening everywhere.
I’ve never seen such a global effort to force this kind of immigration. The US is facing the same problem and also a similar one with H1-B workers.
These kinds of actions are just going to start forcing people to not like certain groups of other people. There has to be a better way.
UK created P#kistan
And now reaping the rewards
@mck2 agreed to an extent. If there are foreigners in the country doing any of the pedo related crap, they need to be punished harshly before being deported to their country so that they don’t feel like folks can do this shit and just be deported without facing punishment. And locals who are involved in this type of shi need to be punished and put in a jail for long time
Op: Situation is insane. The only way out is to vote differently. But I fear this is a case of a frog in hot water, not realizing it until it is too late.
@mck I am not saying it’s justified. But our govt/politicians over last few decades actions is the reason for the current situation and its govt on both sides(left and right). And now all of a sudden corporations/certain parties(specifically right wing) are bi*ching about it and that’s where I have an issue with them.
And also the supporter of one or other party were very trigger happy supporting their party bombing these country so I have no sympathy for those folks.
So we can’t have selective amnesia about the current situation, the anti war politicians in UK were being shit on, well seems like they were right all along.
Soon UK and Europe will be Islamic countries. Give another 10-15years…
But those countries are safe because they are under authoritarian regimes, not because the general population is muslim. In fact that's the main "issue" with this type of immigration in Europe, the amount of crimes and uncivic behaviors has increased since we started welcoming so many of them.
I would not travel to the UK or Europe at this time, or anytime soon. They've been overrun with violent illegals and Muslims.
They say travel broadens the mind. I can assure you there's no question of being "overrun" by anyone.
I see the world turning to socialism/communism or to Islamic government against countries, that fought for freedom, leftist have allowed these people to overrun governments, have bent or compromised laws and let this happen. The government has put such a burden on the people it's all they can do to keep their head above water, while they make promises that are actuals lies. These people should have stayed in their own countries; however, they left their country for a better life, or did they, if so, why are they trying to force us in to believing in their ways. We didn't ask for them to come here and do so, we offered them a better life and they have taken advantage of our good will. However, we now know their intentions and the countries that over being overrun, hopefully will put a stop to it, or suffer the consequences, don't be fooled by what they, beware of what they do, or suffer the consequences.
Ugh all these comments are so tiresome
Europe literally raped, pillaged, and attempted to colonize the whole world.
Europe is literally the reason so many places cannot work their way out of deficits. Europe and America continue to exploit African people and lands. Why can you not see the connection? and please tell me how Muslims are forcing you to bend to their will and ways??? islamaphobia is just that, a phobia, something wrong with you that makes you believe you should be afraid
Seriously there is evil in this world and don’t confuse religion which is a human group of flawed individuals vs God - people are flawed and influenced by bad and good - choice is each person’s
This is the EU's answer to rapid population expansion and global labor shortages. The birth rate is lower and lower and they need cheap labor to compete in the global economy. Last I heard Italy adopted a policy of giving pregnant women an immediate tax exemption in order to provide incentive to population growth. The problem is that along with the good people come the criminals and the EU is ignoring crime because in the country some of them come from, its shall we say different. And like the American Left, god forbid that we toughen up on crime for fear of being racist. At the current pace, many cultural places in the EU will disappear as will their customs and beliefs. Some people will see this as a disaster, others will see it as the adoption of a "global world". Personally, I don't believe in open immigration policies. For this to work, countries have to insist that if you immigrate, you must adopt to our customs and beliefs but there again, to many people that is racism.
I am not sure why tightening or making laws more strict is considered racist to be honest, unless these laws are targeted to some folks only and not all.
A lot of these folks that have moved are already used to even more strict/tough laws in their country. So i am pretty sure they can’t complain about laws of a country they are moving to.
Lastly in regards to culture/customs, in my opinion the European countrys own elite or politicians are responsible for weakening or losing it. Just look at last 30 or so years and see how things have changed in some cases for the worse.and I doubt it’s because of immigrants because even they are complaining about it. if it’s weakening of the family structure, if it’s disrespect,/disconnection of religion, if it’s sexual identities. That’s not something we can blame onto immigrants cause they don’t have the power or interested in those items, it’s a moral decay internally in favor of profit$
I grew up in a relatively high-immigrant part of town in the 90s, with a lot of immigration from the former Jugoslavian area. There were lots of issues with the immigrants, but nowhere near todays status. We maybe had 3-4 immigrant kids per classroom of 20 something kids. Was it all smooth? No. But the ratio worked out and I think nowadays, this population is quite well-integrated. This was how it should be done.
Today, the ratio is just completely off. You won‘t be able to assimilate/integrate these numbers anymore, which will inevitably lead to a change of our local society and culture - the one which hs built this country up. That‘s problem number 1.
Problem number 2 is the crazy amount of young men who are immigrating versus „real“ refugee groups where there‘s more of a mix of genders and age groups. I‘ve served in the army long enough to know that putting many young men together like that, as a surplus, is bad news no matter where they come from but even more so for men from patriarchical societies.
Problem number 3 is the principle of „non refoulement“. Great idea when it was put in place, but it doesn‘t work anymore. I work with law enforcement agencies and it can‘t go on like this anymore. We need to deport people as soon as they do anything illegal, refuse to work or assimilate. I don‘t care if we‘re deporting them back to war zones.
Problem number 4 is demographic change. That may be less relevant with the coming AI age where headcounts matter less for the economic growth.
Problem number 5 are our politicians but also our voters. I don‘t think the majority of either of them are willing to do what needs to be done as outlined above.
Is europe screwed? Yes. Is the US doing much better? I‘m not sure. I‘m a patriot and will for sure try my luck and to change things right here.
I see the European continent is paying the price for such inane open border decisions. The numerous cultures are at risk.
Blaming immigration or open borders oversimplifies the issue. The real erosion in Europe isn’t coming from new cultures arriving, but from within — a disconnection from shared values, moral foundations, and faith that once gave the continent resilience. When a society loses its internal compass, outside influences only magnify the cracks that already exist.
Let's pretend it's a movie. All theory for suspense.
4 Book series
Crusades
Nazi Europe
Plagues!
Terminator 9
Mostly about this wickedly twisted group of humans that think they can become God's. Fearing the population has reached a point they can no longer control without probability of loss. They steal from, test on and then kill large swaths of the planet in search of their God. One death cult after another to no avail. Theyre losing hope. Giving up they finally try to create an army of controllable human hybrids to keep their legacies alive for all of eternity. Plot twist they get sold a pipe dream by a bunch of cons that just used their money to make some weapons and cool architecture with slave labor. It's got it all!
I'm one of those books. These people flood their own country with immigrants so the population doesn't notice it's about to get left holding the bag. While the real bad guys escape to their private island chains. Having thought they conquered the area they overtake it's infrastructure. Only to not know that the infrastructure is still secretly controlled by the real bad people! That's in terminator 9. Pretty gory book that doesn't go like it's supposed to.
Who knows what's really going on I just thinks it's pretty close to that books idea of the future.
the EU leaders are pushing for war with Russia, Lead by Macron of France, and UK govt thinks it will be good to get rid of all those rising up against it by sending them to war. Germany wants control over UK's Nukes and Russia thinks Germany should not continue to exist if it wants to start another World war..... Again its the Traitor politicians leading the charge to Oblivion!!!!
Christianity is definitely the religion of peace.
Definitely didn't r@ape and pillage the entire world and strip the people of their resources and homes
"Think about any modern day conflict around the world and it can probably be traced back to the British empire"...the chickens have come home to roost
Thanks for the encouragement to not give up. However, Arkansas is known to being a Age discrimination state. I will tell everyone that I say when I'm done. Are seniors taking jobs for younger applicants. Yes and no. Seniors grew up with a strong work ethic and offer lots of experience and along with that, empathy. Young people have a fresh pair of eyes and possibly the latest in AI. I'm for all those folks wanting to enter the workforce Young and old. As for me, getting rejected numerous times is heartfelt 💔 😢 not to mention discouraging.
And which religion is in the middle of all problems everywhere...makes you think for a second...
I’m not accusing you but that exchange was too painful to not clarify for everyone involved