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Although Amazon has instituted a hiring freeze and layoffs are probably on their way, I went through the loop for a security engineer position at AWS. Before I attended the final interviews, Amazon placed the hiring freeze and called me to ask if I wanted to go ahead or cancel my application. I decided do go ahead Right now I'm waiting for their response and the position I applied to changed from "under consideration" to "no longer under consideration". Thoughts?
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I’m a woman and I tend to see it being worse for us.
I've seen the men let go at a higher rate. Females are lower paid and seen as more malleable. At my last agency they laid off all 50+ males but kept the two 50+ females because "they don't cause trouble" (which was code for they don't speak up or assert their opinion)
It feels pretty evenly discriminatory. Ironic. The only time men and women are treated equally. (I’m female)
There’s no way to measure it accurately, because women get discriminated against just for being women, and then you put age on top of it, which of course makes women get even more discrimination.
But it’s hard to measure that only ageism is *amplified* for women, because it’s nearly impossible to separate the baseline of straight-up gender discrimination. We can only go by anecdotes and educated guesses.
There’s an argument for yes, because women are unfairly judged on their looks more than men, and women have less collagen than men, so they visibly age faster than men.
There’s an argument that men may have it worse, as ironic aftereffects of being paid more than women, so they’re bigger targets to pick off.
But then there’s also an argument that both factors cancel each other out.
So I really don’t know.
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I’m actually 58 and have honestly never felt discriminated against
"thought it was pretty much understood" - Well, I think that says it all
What was your first clue?
I know an agency that recently had 2 women make it to full retirement age (one actually beyond). And another that came close. And one that got pushed out around mid 50. But the last was because the agency was losing accounts.