Did anyone make the move from NYC to Berlin or Amsterdam? How does it compare lifestyle wise?

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German Consultant here 👋 working for a client in Berlin for a year. Berlin is different from the rest of Germany, got many different subcultures reaching from the rich kids to the communists. The government is chronically leftish with a lot of stupid ideas, meanwhile the hole administration of Berlin is trash and kinda overwhelmed. Besides that Berlin can be fun. But maybe consider Hamburg or Munich too, both beautiful citys without the negative aspects of Berlin lol.

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A friend of mine made the move from NYC to Berlin. I think the lifestyle is a lot more relaxed. Most friends I have in Berlin have quite busy social calendars with lots of things to do. Berlin is very cold and depressing in the winter time though (but then again so is Amsterdam) as grey for weeks on end with little sun in between. The biggest lifestyle wise between Amsterdam and Berlin is that Berlin is huge (for european standards) and it easily takes 30-40 min to go from one district to the next on a night out while Amsterdam is a lot smaller (although the metropolitan area is quite large but a lot of it is living quarters). Moneywise you will make a lot less in both cities than in NYC although Amsterdam probably has higher cost of renting (although nowhere near NYC levels). English is spoken quite well in both areas and there are plenty of internationals. They are similaur in terms of being quite alternative cities however Amsterdam is a lot smaller, more refined and leas ‘edgy’. Locals from Amsterdam can be are quite posh while local Berliners are considered somewhat cold and crude in Germany. The dutch generally are more relaxed than the germans and have a better work life balance, I’ve heard this across the board from Big4 to MBB. Happy to answer any more questions. I have friends in both cities and know them well. Lived in Amsterdam for a few months and really enjoyed it.

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Thank you for your detailed responses. That’s very helpful.
How would you rate the cities as a non-white person? My partner is Asian-American, I am white and as NYC is super diverse we never have any issues here. When traveling through Hamburg last year, we got some stares from older people in predominantly white neighborhoods. That’s why I thought Berlin could be a great, more diverse place, but heard the stuff about a not well functioning administration too

Amsterdam and Berlin are both very diverse so it shouldn’t be an issue. Frankfurt is also very diverse with a big expat community but almost provincial in comparison to the others as it’s very small and doesn’t have all the excitement. Munich and Bavaria in general is more conservative and people are not particularly known to warm (even to other germans). Sometimes old europeans just stare. They do at me too and I’m white. I just stare back and to call them out.

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