Do you think internal job role switches lead to higher pay raises, or being hired by an entirely different company is more profitable? My friend had a huge pay raise because the company that she worked at knew her value after she was there for so long. Everyone always says that you will make more money starting off at a new company in a new role, but I don't think that is always the case. What do you think?

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Internal switches only make adaptation to the culture and people seamless, it’s never a guarantee for higher pay.

It has its benefits no doubt

Agree that internal would definitely be easier, but it might be better to go the more challenging route for self development.

Your friend's case is real but rare — most companies only discover your value when you hand in notice. The data still favors external moves: 15–25% jumps are standard, versus 3–8% internally, even after a title change. The exception is high-visibility roles at companies with disciplined comp bands — if they know what the market pays and want to keep you, they'll match. But that requires you to already be negotiating, not just waiting to be recognized. The loyalty premium exists; it just usually only gets activated by a competing offer. Has anyone actually gotten a meaningful raise internally without an offer in hand?

I agree with you that this is often the case! Would be nice to not have to job search every couple of years

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