How do you deal with “just one small note” that guts an entire script? We keep getting “small notes” from client that fundamentally change the entire script, into a completely new concept. We are on our third new concept, and they are not seeing the pattern here.

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Tell them. That change would be a big problem so either we find other ways or let’s restart again. Ultimately the 2 only ways to deal with it.

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Throw in the towel and move on to the next one

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Your CD and account lead should be pushing the client and not just accepting “small” notes that are actually big.

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I'm pretty sure that feels awful. I would say you should stand your ground and ask them why they're not okay with round 1. After all, you are writing for them so a few changes are inevitable. But if a small change changes the entire script, you need to ask them why they're doing that so it helps both of you out.

On the bright side, at least you didn’t have a Super Bowl spot that was “cliented” into utter and complete mediocrity. To the point where you refuse to put it in your portfolio 🤯🔫 🤦‍♂️

That sounds like 95% of everything I’ve ever worked on…

Are the spots on brief? If so, and they still insist on changes, you can (theoretically) insist on a new brief.

If you want to be the boss, write a novel.

It sounds like I’m being a smartass, but I’m not.

As someone who built a lot of their career with comedy, I’d say that there’s a reason you see so little of it. Everyone wants to be funny, even clients. Most people and Clients cannot get out of their way. A lot of comedy writers from Hollywood even try, but it’s hard once clients and rtbs are involved.
The best, more survivable work in my opinion doesn’t treat the product as a punchline, rather it takes the chief rtb and makes that a core proposition of the joke. So at least then if the client makes changes, they’re changing a: the core proposition, which should have been ironed out in the brief or 2: they’re changing superficial things that don’t effect the joke.
Also the best work answers up to one person.

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