How do you handle overthinking? I just started about a month ago and I find myself overthinking everything I am doing. If I can't find caselaw I think the partner is going to think I'm an idiot. Even when I find something I think this wasn't what they were looking for and they'll think I'm an idiot. Even with just writing emails I find it difficult to balance between not too familiar or too stiff. It gets to the point I'm paralyzed and not billing, trying to figure out how to proceed.

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Senior associate here. If you just started then the partners and your seniors won’t think you’re an idiot but they have an assumption that you know very little (or nothing at all). I know we all have much higher standards for ourselves but realistically look through the eyes of your seniors. They’ve all been there (even if they would like to forget) and have a much lower bar for juniors, which is good because this is a practice; you’re not an expert. Once you have a feeling you put in enough work feel free to just send it. They won’t judge you too harshly.

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I’m the exact same way, it’s likely also imposter syndrome and lacking confidence in your abilities. I don’t really have advice since I’m working on it myself, but it’s good to keep in mind that you’re probably doing way better than you think you are and the partner is not thinking you’re an idiot. I remember one time I got back a document that was redlined so bad he should’ve just written it himself to save time, but he later told me I was doing great. We’re hard on ourselves but others are likely viewing us in a much more positive way.

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I know what you mean, I still feel like every assignment is a test and that I'm either going to pass or fail at life based on that. It sounds like you have a good partner who wants you to teach and invest in you. Learn from this assignment and I'm sure you are doing just fine :)

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I had the same problem. Get into therapy asap. I'm still solving it but therapy gelps

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I'm thinking about it. Just don't know how to go about finding a good therapist who I'll feel comfortable with.

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I struggled with this exact thing. It’s eerie that you put what my exact thoughts were on this post. I say, just keep showing up and doing your best. The partners (good ones) will always tell you if you’re not on the right track. Don’t create problems when their are none and write down. Actually write down or take notes of all feedback that you get. That is helpful for reality testing delusional thoughts. Along the way, it gets easier and you trust yourself and the process a lot more.

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My best advice was to get close with your paralegal. They have the best experience and usually know how to approach things, even if they’re just telling you your approach is correct.

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