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I was just offered a CUNY role. The title is Higher Education Assistant. According to Glassdoor, the average annual pay for that role is $83,418. However, I was offered $62,500. I requested for the minimum annual salary to be 75k. Does anyone have experience navigating the CUNY system and their pay?
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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.
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I totally get how tough this must be for you. It's not uncommon for employers to stick to their budgeted salary ranges, but it's also possible they're taking advantage of the situation. Don't give up! Keep negotiating and remember your worth. You've made $95K before, so you know your skills are valuable. Keep pushing for that $85-87K range, and don't be afraid to walk away if it doesn't feel right. You'll find the right fit, and it'll be worth the wait. Keep your head up and keep going!
start your own business. No one will pay you what your worth, read up on MLM you can get the result in pay for a shorth period at time just my leveling up.
Hey OP it's happening at every level. I was laid off in 2023 making 240 and every offer I got in 2024 was 190-210. It sucks hard to not have any leverage but they know they can fill roles given the quantity of talent looking right now. I sucked it up took the pay cut. Pay your bills cut spending where you can and ride the lull until things pick up again. You're not alone and it's not personal!
LinkedIn just had a post about this about an hour ago saying people who are looking now are definitely taking a pay cut. There was a false rise and wages during the pandemic and now it’s making a correction.
Why don't this shit ever correct going up
Consultant work is saturated. Tailor your resume for tech and if at all possible, spin it to a skill like project management, people management, if you're technical, etc... Write every job description into your resume and get off linked in. Use other sites like indeed, zip recruiter, glassdoor. Also take trip to your local economic counsel at your chamber of Commerce. Ask who is growing in your area.
I would apply, ensure that they know that range isn’t a dealbreaker and worry about negotiating when they want to make an offer. Don’t want to have the door shut in your face, and you have more leverage once you’re at the offer stage especially if you have multiple offers.
Why negotiate pay, before you even know if theyre seriously interested in hiring you. Maybe you should wait for the 2nd interview, if you get one
I hope you get what you’re looking for. Speaking from experience I went from 83k to them offering me a whopping 56k after I was laid off. I have 2 relevant degrees and relevant experience. It hurt but I really needed a job after months of no income and bills and many interviews and rejections, I was in need and I negotiated to 60k. They eventually brought me up to 72k and since I’ve ’proven’ myself, I advocated for more but did it get further than this. I say all that to say, do what’s best for you, know your worth but if you have to take something in the meantime, do what you gotta do. It’s not necessarily a you problem, this is the current state of the market and it’s been happening for a few years now.
Are you trying to negotiate pre-offer? If so, I would recommend you end that practice and instead reserve any and all salary negotiations until AFTER you have an offer (but prior to accepting).
I am in the same boat. I made 104k and I'm about to get an offer for 75k but I've been searching 5 months and I can no longer afford to wait. But I'll likely take it because income is income. It's easier to find a job when you already have one.
Life for many folks is about Survival, so I think you're wise as income saves you from the street and you can also keep applying until you get back to where you want to be income Wise
What do you do and are you in a high cost of living city? What industry are you in?
Because in banking this is super low like we even increased our highschool internship pay to $33hr and early bachelor internships to $40hr so fresh grads are starting at 70k with minimal to no experience and grad students at $120k plus in MCoL cities like Charlotte.
Laid off at the end of 2022, made 150K (20+ years of experience). Took 10 months to find a role at 100K. Was burning through savings, so I took it. Am actively looking for a better paid role with more strategic work again and a person or a team to work with instead of working 60+ hours a week plus 12 hours of driving commute for a glorified assistant job (they want strategic work but don't want to hire someone to free me up to do the strategic work). This market is tough and competitive, and sometimes it requires taking a step or two backward to gain the speed to leap forward again.
Same here! Laid off from 100,000 job in late August and finally after 5 months had to take a job at 65,000 and doing same amount of work. What is going on??? But I have a job and can catch up bills and hope they see my value after 90 day probation and increase my pay. If not, keep looking I guess! Good luck to you!'
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So I've always heard that for every 10K you make, it takes 1 month to find an equal pay position. That advice has helped me stay steady and it's never taken me as long as I thought. Also, it made me focus on a goal for tucking away emergency savings. I know it doesn't help you now, but maybe it will in the future. Best of luck!!!
There is a market correction happening right now, and it's really challenging. I don't want to tell you you should take less (because only you know that) but is it possible to consider other holistic value in the role? Even if it's less, is it possible it could offer more flexibility or reduced hours? Could it offer some runway down the road? There are valid reasons to consider taking less, even if only temporarily. I would try to depersonalize it though - it's often the market, and not "you." We're in a true correction these days.
I would take what you can get for now and you can try negotiating at job offer. Then keep looking for higher paying jobs. The job market sucks. I was laid off and jobless for 1+ year! I expect the market will start changing for the better soon. 🤞
The job market will not improve soon it will get much much worse, but some companies are definitely hiring, and many are offering below market salaries while many are offering very healthy salaries and depending on the role very healthy commissions
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Good luck! Job hunting is no fun and hope you find a good job soon!
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I think the days of great pay is over. I never recovered .
No. All wfh. My newest job is fully autonomous. I work from my Florida vacation property or my families Colorado springs home. I just bought a million dollar home in arkansas.
"Never take a job with less responsibilities or lower pay than what you currently have. It is a resume killer when your potential employer sees this." IMO, this says more about your potential employer than it does you. Every economy has limits and companies that cannot or will not recognize that are insanely out of their minds legitimately. You CANNOT have never ending increasing profits, period. It is literally written into the stars. They just need to learn to stop being selfish adolescent 3 year old with "MINE" mentalities and grow up.
I am sorry about that. I wish you get employed within a short time.
Did you have to move?
@project manager I too am in the same boat however I finally have 2 offers and struggling with who to go with. Both are pay cuts but after 16 years wfh the higher pay offer is on site. cant decide which one is best long term.