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Not saying nursing is easy, but you can work a 3 day week and be full time and the work doesn’t come home with. Lawyers have it tough but not always and their pay is much better. Accountants have unconscionable work expectations for relatively low pay. Working 7 days a week for months on end isn’t healthy and I don’t blame kids for not wanting to do it
The mental baggage is not the same and it’s unfortunate part of many jobs. The firefighter who couldn’t get into the building, the cop who found the deceased, the therapist whose patient takes their own life. Working nonstop with high levels of stress will destroy your mental and physical health over time. At least the nurse has time for the gym and can sleep more than 5 hours a night.
Like most jobs the issue is how their industry treats them. Nurses, Lawyers, SWE, etc have it really good when their industry is doing well. For accounting it's at best okay and for a lot just a slog with no appreciation. It's like I'm fighting my managers and the suite all the time. Can't "do to much" because you will not be rewarded for it
It’s because accounting has low pay with long hours. And the work itself is boring
Entry level salaries can’t swing a one bedroom apartment in many markets. Four years (five if dedicated to CPA) and you still need roommates or to live with your parents for a career that used to be one of the most highly respected careers.
Or a degree that pays more than accounting at entry level with only four years of school.
Yeah it’s ridiculous that min wage in some places are comparable to a starting salary for a fresh out of college kid with a mountain of school debt. Honestly salaries across the board should get a pay bump. I would also say that outsourcing accounting is worse for the profession than better. You’re giving work to someone who is probably a 10th the accountant you’re replacing just to pay half the cost. Then your forcing the remaining accountants to now work 10 times more to make up for that lack of skill.
Depends on what other industry/job you're comparing it to. Software developers seem to do much better than us.
They get laid off more though.
Agreed, but regardless people (myself included) will complain about whatever situation they are in. The grass is not always greener IMO.
Nurses have it rough.
NP getting exposed as we speak on Bloomberg. There are NP are out on average making 150k base with overtime you can be making over 200k straight out of your program, which is basically getting a bachelor and masters degree. You don’t see accounting staffs out there making that 150k starting. Sure there might be scenarios where they have it rough, but they are well compensated for it and it’s not every experience they encounter is bad.
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I think it's more that people are excited about other careers like tech and very few people champion accounting. I think we'll need to see firms make it more enticing which will take time.
When we uncover issues such as incompetence, corruption, criminal activity we are likely to experience backlash. We are the messengers, they often destroy the messenger.
I do it for the love of accounting. If I wanted more money or prestige I would have been like a surgeon or professional athlete.
Agreed I work for a fitness company make a good salary great benefits, great culture, great work life balance. There are so many things to do within accounting, tax, audit, corporate accounting, pivot to finance.
I love accounting. Making truing the numbers up to make all the accounts balance, looking for that odd ball number that was put in the wrong box. Is it really working if you enjoy what you do. Just got a job offer after looking for two months
We need to unionize and have a nationwide strike and walkout because accountant lives matter. We deserve to get paid overtime for the overtime we are forced to work. Accounting firms partners already make too much money.
I feel that QuickBooks has had a major impact. If you are not proficient In it, it seems that you are up the creek without a paddle. Also Microsoft Business programs (Excel, Word, Outlook) may have the same impact. You may have gotten A's in all your Advanced accounting courses in college but if you don't have a great grasp of these programs,it could be your downfall. If you can you may invest your time in going online to learn the basics but if you want to go further you may need to pay for it.