I want the confidence of a white male. Im currently competing against someone who has been at the company 6 months for a senior leadership position because he decided to apply. Now there are many hoops added to the standard process. Im all for going after what you want, but demonstrate some value first.

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I, too, wish I had that kind of confidence. Sometimes I wonder where they get it from and why others, primarily women, lack it. I wish they bottled it up and sold it lol.

Wishing you the best of luck!

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Thank you! He’s not really qualified for the role. My only worry is that they decide it’s cheaper to give him a much less substantial promotion (which he will take) and dissolve the position. I am not that generous.

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We cannot control a shitty culture that keeps promoting white males, but you can embrace your greatness, get to know your strengths, name them, have them clear in your mind, this will develop more confidence since you know your worth.

Also, thinking about WM confidence in terms of privilege makes me more internally focus of the things I can control.

Check the #Iamremarkable workshop from Google.

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Act like you already have the job. Focus on your experience, constantly refer to him as a junior employee, imply you might leave the company if he is promoted and then do it if he is. Don’t make the transition easier for everyone either.

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When it comes to men in the workplace, I advocate for being as cutthroat as possible when they act like this. Especially if the company is going to make you compete against someone that has been there for 6 months. 🙄

That touches me so much. Recently, my company has had some promotions from people who made it to VP without having the required experience that the company requested from us: the women. Suddenly these requirements are obsolete because these people have a trusting relationship with the COO. When I told my husband about this, he said, "...Are you really surprised? It's been like this since school: the kid closest to the school principal didn't get the blame...' I hope you can keep calm or take it with some humor. When I think of excessive male self-confidence, I always have to think of the red baboon monkeys with their red assess walking around....And if your company is really changing the leadership role because this guy is applying, they've never felt the need to hire an experienced executive to begin with. I'll cross my fingers for you. 🤞🤗

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Thank you! I really appreciate your advice and perspective.

What's that quote? Women will only apply for roles if they're 99% qualified while men will apply for roles where they meet 50% of the requirements. Or something like that. Because men are the default setting of society and assume they deserve whatever job they want. The rest of us are told that it just works that way and suck it up. Personally, when I hold men to the standards by which professional women have to live, they do not like it.

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What if it has nothing do to with color or gender? What if it has to do with what they bring to the table, no matter the tenure. I can tell you I would rather promote a 6 mos candidate who has all the right fit than a 5 year person because of tenure. (I don’t know the job or the skill needed of course) but I literally told my boss today please don’t ever promote me because of my tenure, promote me because of the skill and what I bring to the position.

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Im surprised they gave the okay for someone 6 months in a the company.

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I applied for a promotion about 6 months into the job I have now. I don’t think your tenure should be reason to not apply for a role you are interested in. If he isn’t qualified and they hire him anyways, that says more about this company than this individual.

I did end up getting the promotion.

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Hey at least in leadership we finally (women) outnumber men named John. smh what a world.

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I’ve seen an ego problem in white makes, white females and Asian females

You can't be serious with this.

It seems it always a boys club. I am lucky to have a hood and supportive boss. I suggest finding Allie’s and those that will bring you up.

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