Just how bad are the rumors that the Bay is bad socially or for dating? I'm considering moving there since my team is expanding and I think it'll be good for my career. I'm not necessarily looking for NYC-vibes, but I want to meet fun people and not talk about AI/startups all day either. What are some ways to get involved with activities/leagues (i.e. I'm into racquet sports, hiking, and music) so I can meet new people? I'd be moving to the Bay without knowing anybody there.

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Do south SF instead of walnut creek. WC is for families

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But they are right, live off of Geneva, the hills and parking will really sell the SF vibe alongside ease of access to muni, BART and endless amounts of fe… nvm.

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Definitely lots of opportunities to get involved but it will be a lot of tech talk. Check out Partiful and luma those seem to be the way to coordinate gatherings and events here now.

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I’ve definitely found it not great socially, but it might be better actually living in SF

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If you are a woman it’s great if you are a guy enjoy the bar full of dudes with 2-3 women in it 😂🤣.

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Found more interesting people here in SF than LA or NY tbh. Depends on your vibe. If you want looks and easier opportunities SF is not good but I've found more women with interesting passions and hobbies here.

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It's bad, but not as bad as some people say it is

Re: social, you mentioned a bunch of activities. You'll be fine. The crowd that struggles socially here are people like me that are used to hanging out / going to bars and house parties being the primary social activity like it is in many other big cities, but even then I've found a solid set of friends over time. Being an activities-oriented person it shouldn't be a big issue for you. SF is probably the best city for physical activities in the US

Re: dating, it's not as bad as people say. I really like smart women with their own stuff going on in life and there's plenty of them here. The standards are a lot higher for men though, so you'll need to have your stuff together when you're ready to meet someone. You can't be as much of a WIP as you can be in other cities. You'll also have the same challenge you have in cities like NYC -- a lot of people are here for 2-5 years before moving back to their hometown, which introduces challenges

The gender ratio is skewed male but IMO that's disproportionately driven by a bunch of Asian H1B SWEs working in tech, which tend to skew male, but they're probably not dating in the same pools I am for the most part (my friends who do fit that demo certainly have a harder time though)

Re: talking about tech all the time, that comes down to who you spend your time with. If you make friends who are all startup SWEs or founders it'll be common, but if you have a mixed friend group you can absolutely escape it (especially once you're good enough friends with your startup type friends where you can tell them to change the subject)

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This is spot on!

If you like going out out, SF is a lot tougher since it’s also filled with a ton of “I love hiking / rock climbing / pickleball” bro energy so it’s a great way to meet people if you’re really into it.

That being said, be the change you want to see and if you like bars/going out, inspire people!

Also, you folks sound hella fun, we should grab a drink!

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Have lived here 7 years and greatly enjoy it. The key is meeting people from here and/or plan to stay here long-term

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Been here over 20 years now. Still love it. Dated lots, made great friends and even met my wife here. I find most of the complaints come from people who have been here less than 3 years. You have to be okay that this is an ever changing city, it can be hard to make it here. Your network is important but you can always build and expand your network here.

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Good if you are a girl, not if you are a guy

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