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The US can do a whole lot of things in the name of national security. Banning a dumb app is probably the least controversial.
That you’re asking this in a Federal Government channel is hilarious
The same reason why Google is blocked in China. If a company does not abide by the standards a government imposes, fair or unfair, the government will prohibit them from operating in the country it controls.
Google does not conform to China's censorship regulations.
TikTok does not confirm to the US's privacy and corporate governance laws.
You really don’t understand the potential impacts of a Chinese owned app having the ability to feed disinformation to a large part of American residents?
American media makes money off of the polarization in the US. We know a lot of that came from Russian bots, and TikTok will only make that worse.
TikTok is in almost every way damaging to our society.
TikTok is the product of a country that is beholden to a power even more scary than greed - the personal ideology of the few individuals running the CCP who have a literal death grip on its population and machinations.
The US is terribly, horribly, morally and politically bankrupt, but the good thing about US "ideology" is it's very easy to understand: the freedom to make money. It's all about money. That's the US ideology.
Now in China they care about money, absolutely, but only as a means to an end for the CCP's political ideology, which has absolutely nothing to do with freedom in their eyes. In fact, freedom is an antithesis to the CCP ideology. In a world where they have infinite money, you have infinitely less freedom. Remember, as a communist institution, everything in China is practically a CCP institution under their control. Dissenters will be neutralized.
Now, there are nuances to banning TikTok in the US procedurally. Setting precedent that the government gets to decide what media platforms people express their freedom of speech on is absolutely a slippery slope. However, I have no clue how people logic themselves into a position that TikTok is a net positive for the US. It's just not, full stop.
Yes, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, etc. all do the same things functionally as TikTok, but they're truly US-based so within our sphere of influence and, again, their modus operandi is only looking to make a lot of money. Is it better or worse? Well, it's the lesser of two evils. At least with the options we have now.
So, just keep in mind TikTok is a CCP organization. Necessarily. That's how China and the CCP government, a communist institution, works. I don't care how you slice up the legal ownership and divisions, it is what it is. That's how it was founded, that's the connection the top executives have, and they hide behind thinly veiled legal structures and phony geography of offices or whatever to claim ties to Singapore or whatever the excuse is.
You're making a nonsense whataboutism argument. And now just calling me names. So, pretty typical. Saying the silicon in phone is assembled in China has literally nothing to do with a SOFTWARE APPLICATION that propagates information. It is also not the case someone couldn't care about one or both. It's just irrelevant. You are just not happy that I'm not engaging with your argument because you've spent zero effort actually responding to anything I've actually said.
I would expect a government ‘Lead’ to have more knowledge about what the govt can and can’t do
I vote ban
National security, simple as that.
Don’t ban it, government overreach
Spent years in Intel, I can assure you, it’s a national security risk. You’ll never know the full extent of these details unless you get a TS/Poly and sit in certain agencies … seriously
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Imagine if Russia housed all of the data on Facebook/Instagram? Would that be of concern to the American public?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China “A majority of apps and websites blocked are the result of the companies not willing to follow the Chinese government's internet regulations on data collection and privacy, user-safety, guidelines and the type of content being shared, posted or hosted.”
We should do the same.
I could see on national security grounds but through a very simple one line bill and targeting specifically TikTok and its use on google (android) and apple products. Not through a broad swath ”banning bad apps and websites” bill that’s going to allow government to go after whatever it wants - and will very likely be weaponized for domestic politics.
What I proposed?
Someone needs to reads The Constitution
Apologies, section 8 clause 3.
The real questions is that if they're framing the banning of TikTok as not complying with US privacy laws because of the national security risk, then wouldn't that mean failure by US corporations to also protect our privacy constitute a national security risk?
In other words, if our personal data is so important that it constitutes a national security threat if a "foreign adversary state" has access to it, then what does it mean when US companies fail to protect said data either due to negligent cybersecurity or malicious profit-seeking intent?
Cynically, you could argue that American tech companies have all granted US intelligence agencies backdoor access to their data, including the data of non citizens outside the US.
It is very difficult for foreign companies to enter the Chinese market. There is a lot of red tape. This is done on purpose to keep foreign companies out. Why make their lives easier when our country is put at a disadvantage in theirs?
What? How will I get my news?