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F that. I guarantee they don’t enforce an end time.
Then you should enforce a go home time.
Richards Group people, where you at?
Well obviously not everyone is going to be happy. I said the people I know are happy.
I’ve never heard of this happening.
My experience is account, finance, ops, type folks are in earlier. Creative types later. But everyone works f’n late, nights and weekends, all the time.
I think a lot of the nights/weekends work tends to be remote for account, ops, etc. emails, conf calls, schedules, spreadsheets, decks, etc. just because they aren’t in office doesn’t mean they aren’t working. ✌️
Required start times are for insecure managers whose only value in life is to enforce arbitrary rules.
If you hire great people and give them the support they need, they’ll get their work done and done well. Creativity doesn’t punch in (or out by the way).
That company is likely being run by someone you don’t want to work for. They’re probably in a little office, with lots of spreadsheets open.
Tell that to The Richards Group.
Our official hours are laughable. Some bean counter wanted to make sure we could bill 40 hours a week. So our official hours are 8:30-5:30 with a 1 hour lunch. But in reality, we work more than that. Problem is if you get in early and leave on time, managers (who get in an hour late or more) kind of give you the stink eye. So best to just shift hours later so they notice you “working late.”
I’ve had two managers in my freelance career ask me to make a 9 or 9:30 start time. I don’t know how I managed the nerve but I told them no. I’m a 10:00 gal. They were taken aback but I wasn’t fired. Both were crappy agencies. I find the bad agencies always have the most rules.
I used to have a psycho boss who would text me when it was 9:35. Glad he’s gone.
Required start times don’t work well in today’s workplace. It honestly drives talent away and makes employees feel restricted. I love the flexibility BCW gives employees to come in and WFH.
Yeah, New York is pretty chill. I can only speak to what I see and we have very flexible teams here. People get in around 9:30/10. Many WFH Friday’s. 🙋🏼♀️
I’ve only worked at places with start times. Makes sense if you’re really working as a team.
When I started my career we had a client that would give late feedback so the entire team came in later. I hated this but it was better than not getting much sleep. Worst client demands I’ve ever dealt with.
If you work more independently, perhaps with a daily quota then your own schedule makes sense. If you lead a team, tackle shared agendas or volumes of work you should be on a schedule. You should also go home early as a team.
Women, even some really smart capable independent women, will sometimes put up with men who suck, simply because they really really want somebody who will pull the hair out of the drain. It’s obviously a bad, illogical, emotionally driven bargain.
Similarly, I think agency folks will put up with all manner of bullshit (wage freezes, abusive deadlines, endless overtime, racism, sexism, ageism, etc.) just so they can work at place that lets them come in at 10am. It is an identical bad bargain, and just as hard to talk the maker out of.
Ad folks with alarm clock phobia, I would just ask u to examine what u r truly exchanging for that meager benefit.
The worst. I worked for one company that let a particularly evil boss actually doc pay for being late ... and we were salaried! Obvi we all quit.