Sabarimala. God... what’s happening in this country?

SC did the right thing. There could be headache or growing pains in the short term but it is a necessary market correction. Same goes for Ayodhya. The legal argument for a Ram temple there is very strong and I hope we put the subject to rest once and for all.

Those who know the legend of Sabarimala know that it's neither discrimination nor exploitation of women. I urge every woman to first research and read about the legend of Sabarimala before jumping to conclusions.

Classic left wing argument, Status Quo is 'primitive'. If that is the case, go and make war on PoK? How about banning Azaan, 'primitive' isn't it? Rather, how about banning Jallikattu? Left wing was genuine once upon a time, but now, it is almost like there is way too much symbolism everywhere in its name. Every argument has a counter argument. Women enter temples every where except this and maybe a handful other temples. So I call BS on your so called primitive argument EY1. I am a practical minded person. Sabarimala was BS judgement for the same reason India and Pakistan don't go to war. It is too expensive, our country has more important things to solve than this BS, which was not in news till 2 weeks ago.

Let me see if I got this right, the petitioner in this case was a moslem, the court judges that invaded my sacred space and who think they have a right to legislate on my deities are leftists or non-hindu adharmikas with a specific agenda, and those women that agitate to get into the shrine were never worshippers in the first place. Those gullible Hindus who take time to post here need to realize that this same argument for women in christian priesthood or moslem places will be, and was quashed by these same judges or will be met with violence typical of these groups. And we know you are too much of cowards to take that on if you were really into women's rights. So, take a moment and think...why would you waste your time and energy to join the lecture brigade on a shrine you never heard of and have no respect/faith in? Why stand against us, the traditionalists? What crumbs are you expecting that you feel the need to abuse your heritage, your ancestors and your deities and your traditions without any shame?

Sometimes Status Quo saves a lot of headache. Whether it is Ram Mandir or Sabarimala. I firmly think SC fucked up. You don't f around with religion to look like a Rockstar country. Look at the loss on riots, police protection etc.

@D1 last heard it was a free country, I am proud of my thought process and it has brought me where I am. And guess what, for you and you only, Modi for 2019. If you don't have constructive argument, please by all means, make yourself feel relevant with personal dissing. Also, I am a proud hindu raised by a single mother who did not give 2 hoots about being able to enter a temple. She worked her ass off and raised us. Get off your high horse working in the USA and dissing my 'backward' character. Your point?

From THE SKIN DOCTOR on twitter

Women can't enter mosques:
Fatima : That's our internal matter.
(Translation : Mujhe aur jeena hai.)

Women can't become preists:
Mary : What's the need?
(Transln : Himmat nahi panga lene ki)

Sabarimala: Fatima & Mary : We'll fight this bias.
(Transln : Attention, fame, awards)

Accenture 1 - You missed the whole point. Please research a bit on the legend of Sabarimala. All your doubts would be cleared.
Just giving you a heads-up that if you get thoughts which make you question the faith itself, then please don't challenge it here. There are millions of devotees whose sentiments would be hurt.
If you are truly a rationale person, you will not just question things but dig deeper into the matter.
First of all, get names of the people who filed the petition in the SC. Second, get the names of the people who tried to enter the shrine.
Their "names" would suggest you a lot of things. Google search those names and see what kind campaigns they had been involved with.
Neither they are devotees (people of other religions are also allowed into Sabarimala) nor they belong to Hinduism.
And if you say that any citizen of India has the right to question any religion in India then it would just spark communal disharmony in every corner of the nation.
There are two types of people: 1. Reformists and 2. Arsonists
Please use your research to categorize the people who stand for and against Sabarimala into these two groups.
Lastly, I would just say, if you are happy with your life, let others live happily too. Let them follow whatever they want, let them worship whomever they want, let them eat whatever they want as long as it is not a threat to you.
Don't be a reformist, if you truly can't be.

P1, we were a British colony for 200 years because Kings decided to maintain the status quo. What you consider a ‘loss’ is an embarrassing social Stone Age BS that has no place in a SECULAR country. Shame on those men, who think they are serving god by ganging up on women. SC has done great things recently , I’m proud of that.

@A1 my skill set pays me to do what I do. I don't get on a flight to India to 'defend' my religion to pay my bills. Not surprised to see you give rhetoric and patronize me coz that's basically what you have been doing this entire thread. Try harder.

P1, all those examples has nothing to do with discrimination. PoK is an international dispute. Do you expect SC to declare war on Pakistan ? I mean seriously , do you think judiciary decides military strategies .Don’t bring examples that has nothing to do with this changing of arcane social practices of the country that directly are in conflict with the democratic and secular principles of this nation.

SC is not calling your illusions primitive , you are welcome to believe in left wing conspiracy and all your unicorns as long as you don’t mess up with my rights. African Americans will not be allowed to vote , if we had considered ‘loss’ and violence by fanatics as a reason to stay in our rooms. Its called bullying the Supreme Court . Got it?

P1 the more you write the stupider you sound. Take your backward mentality and don't embarrass yourself any more.

@EY1, on one hand you consider my analogy on PoK irrelevant but then bring up Secularism and independence and then African Americans in the same argument? That's the thing with leftist argument, convenient parameters apply to you only, but not when you get the same,eh?

P1. If it’s a free country then women should be allowed to enter sabarimala without the Supreme Court intervening shouldn’t they.

And P1, India isn’t a closeted theocracy like Saudi where non-Muslims can’t enter Mecca (for example). Men and Women BOTH should be allowed to enter any temple they choose to. I’d extend the same argument to Mosques and other religious buildings in India.

Why do you feel the need to classify people as left wing or right wing. I don’t think there’s a need for that. Sure I understand what you’re saying - what difference does this verdict make in day to day life but you’re really simplifying it. That’s like saying why does India need a space program when there’s so much poverty on the ground.

I don’t understand why people don’t realize that every week there is new religious issue popping in India to divert our hearts and minds from discussing the real issues related to development, inflation, corruption etc. Come 2019 elections and again cows and goats will queue up to vote on basis of religion and caste!

Sorry P3 was waiting for you to finish your ridiculous rant. Hopefully you’ve calmed down by now. I’m a believer, and a Hindu. Why are you unable to reconcile that with me agreeing with the verdict that women should be allowed to visit. How does one agreeing with the verdict make someone less of a believer.

@A1 for the umpteenth time. Please read the entire context behind not allowing women of a 'certain' age in the temple. Please don't cherry pick facts to suit a narrative - 'According to Sabha office bearers, Sethu Parvathi Bai, a member of the Royal family, had visited Sabarimala along with her sons Chithira Thirunal Balarama Varma and Uthradam Thirunal Marthanda Varma, only after the stipulated age. “Moreover, the ‘queen’ had not stepped through the holy 18 steps to reach the shrine. The visit was not during the pilgrim season as well. Hence, matters pertaining to her visit to Sabarimala should be avoided during the hearing in the court,” they said.' a simple Google search yielded this. Women of a certain age and later were allowed in the temple before - we are talking of a centuries old custom when discussions around menstruation were not liberal. Nevertheless, I dont debate logic behind religion - please adopt atheism if you want a highly pragmatic well rounded religion - if you are, it is your right. But the simple fact I am advocating is, this practice or culture did not murder people, so if a million people of your thought process dictate this for another 15 million people whose forefathers and previous generations have been peacefully abiding by, coz it was a way of life - something is wrong isn't it? Protesters of Sabarimala who lived in peace following their God, who have lived there for generations, have been forced to comply with a regulation which really is a token judgement. I hope I am reasoning with you by now. People have a right to faith and practice their religion, which is being encroached upon in the name of liberalism and law. I have a term for it - Radical Left.

Kerala cannot get right wing government ..all attempts to ruin an Amazing state