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Attorney = lawyer, but law school no bar = neither
I tend to see people not actually licensed just using “[name], J.D.” in their email signatures to show they went to law school but are not an attorney/lawyer.
While they certainly are JDs, using that in a signature could be very confusing to clients.
Chief
Same thing. But law students are pretentious and eager for accolades
In the US, these terms are generally synonymous.
It’s generally impermissible and may be unlawful to hold yourself out as a lawyer without a license
I think of them as synonymous. But lawyers like to be called attorneys, the same way doctors prefer to be called physicians. Kind of like how we never say we sued someone. It’s filing a claim or an action.
It’s a pretension I fully engage in.
I’d never heard the thing about law school vs being licensed. I vote that you have a JD until you’re licensed, then you’re synonymously a lawyer/attorney
I have never heard people say from law school you’re a lawyer then an attorney when you pass the bar. Maybe because I work for and I’m mostly around older lawyers.
You know how legalese is full of "legal doublets" like "cease and desist," "due and payable," etc.? We do that because of the way languages converged in legal practice, so scribes used words with origins in multiple dominant languages for maximum clarity.
https://www.wordrake.com/resources/trimming-legal-doublets-and-triplets has more info on that. They don't list "attorney" and "lawyer" in their list of legal doublet examples, but I recall hearing that these parallel terms had the same kind of origin.