Why do people hate on implementation so much?
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Because it is nit a sexy wording . Imagine you are a date: “ what you do dude ?” - “I am developing strategies for the largest corporations solving borderroom challenges” or “I am working with offshore team to upgrade SAP for procurement”. Which response will take you further ?
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Also, if you talk like this, sorry to say, there’s nothing attractive about an over-inflated ego
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Idk, I love it. I love seeing the actual end result and everything live on production and the client being happy because we just saved them so much manual labor that they did every month
Because having to actually execute or “doing it” is damn near harder than giving strategic advisory, so it makes some people feel a lot better about themselves.
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There’s not as much thinking involved. You’re just babysitting people to push a button over a long time and it doesn’t help you develop a distinguished skillset
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PM1, strategy doesn’t really work that way but I think this conversation is way over your head, so I’ll save my breath.
TA1, sorry, don’t want to get too lost in the weeds. We normally get offshore to do your job and I think that’s where the future is moving. Would save up as much of the TC as you can before your job is offshored
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I disagree with above. Different problem sets that stimulate different people.
For me implementation is very frustrating because very few people are doing true thinking and putting in required effort. Often, there are 2-3 competent people who will end up picking up the thinking for everyone else and you just chase people to do more than bare minimum. It’s a lot of bullshit detecting.
Strategy is much more likely to have many people thinking deeply about the topics- and the discussions tend to be about how to think differently or look at things in ways people haven’t before. Also has its frustrations but they tend to be more intellectually stimulating to solve.
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Lol. Drinking the koolaid on that one. Mck has found out that strategy projects bill for 10 wks, while implementation projects bill for 30-90
Not a high value activity. You don't need to think much, just use a user manual and build the system. You deal with low caliber people who are usually discards from the business and no one wants. Implementation work is also long term pain as once you go on a project only the project partner knows you. So your visibility is greatly dismissed. Also it is not that well paying...some areas like SAP pay reasonably well but still not to the level of strategy or product. But on the flip side it is maybe more secure than strategy or product. All in all avoid if possible.
TA1, projects are long as they are large and complex. But its a lot of grunt work and repetitive. You surely can refer to user and config manuals and do step by step work. BTW I have been working in one of those areas for a long time and though I get paid reasonably well, I womt recommend that to anyone.
Would argue implementation is getting more popular than strategy as of late given people want to exit to tech and be product managers. Feel like strategy was cool a decade ago but people have figured out most pie in the sky work gives you little to no real skills and more times than not is not actionable. I am an ex strategy consultant
I think on one hand it’s just groupthink
On the other hand a lot of people are drawn to consulting due to the variety it offers. The variety aspect is true when it comes to strategy but is quite the opposite in implementation as projects tend to run a lot longer. As such you aren’t experiencing one of the common traits that draw people to consulting (especially more junior staff)
^this
It bores me to be constantly in meetings asking people if they did their tasks for the week
Strategy background and been on an implementation for the past 6 months. I can honestly say that implementation is horrible…not much thinking involved.
Cuz u get paid less for doing more
You never done one, have you ..
Because strategy pays more
Boring as hell and doesn’t pay
Coz we no longer can do the blame game - need to do it ourselves lol 😂
They do?
People who want to be strat bros do
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I prefer a mix of both.
Oh, you’re bi-functional.