EY expects 15% overtime from their employees for the year, yet don't pay overtime, hmm. *Talk about the tone at the top*

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You're salaried, there's no such thing as "overtime", there is just work. They expect a certain # of billable hours in exchange for the salary they give you. If the billable hour expectations were lowered by 15%, the salary would also be lowered to match the level of work performed...

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The entire concept of "overtime" is based on government regulations that protect certain classes of workers to ensure they receive additional pay/benefits for working "overtime". If you're an exempt employee (which everyone on here is) then there is no "overtime".

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^so would you rather get paid 15% less for an equal reduction in the hours?

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Just look at starting salaries for other business jobs with a more traditional 9-5. There's a reason why the pay for those jobs is lower.

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If you're unhappy with your work, why are you working there? Plenty of other good jobs out there that might be a better fit for you.

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Partners are reducing our benefits cause it affects their bottom line. Guys expect a big paycheck cause of the work they put to get there.

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^intangible value means a lot to me and I would agree it gets discounted SS1 and Charlie I agree with you as well. It sometimes feels like it isn't enough, especially benefits for college loans when the firm could take a large burden off the staff

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Hey here's a novel idea - maybe they've looked for a job and can't find one?! Woahhhhh! Mind blowing!!!

Trying to make big law money but in big 4. Talk to me when you hit billables for the year over 2500 (billed, not worked btw). I'll take this life over my previous life a thousand times over.

Partnwr 1 you were banking in OT and probably hourly when you were staff and cost of living and expenses was dirt cheap, idiot

@EY2 how the work in big law compared to PA? Was these work interesting? Are you doing somewhat comparable stuff in PA?

Yeah cost of living has increased yet starting salary has not.

^Yes it has. Starting salary in large markets is around $60K now. It was only $50K a decade ago. That's a 20% increase in a decade. I don't know off the top of my head what inflation was over that period, but I believe it's usually 2% or so a year, which makes the increase in salary right in line with inflation.

Starting in my market is 53, up from 51 last year.

Large city.

Nice pivot partner. Wouldn't want your bottom line to get effected. The rules where changed by people who used to be making OT, greed never wins

Were* ... you can sign up for a game and still be an advocate for a more fair game. Typical response I'd expect from someone in your shoes

@OP when exactly were people paid OT? The FLSA has included exemptions since at least 1949. I think you're talking out of your ass here. I don't think partners ever were paid OT at any point during their PA careers.

Arthur was and I've heard from plenty of partners bragging out their hourly and overtime pay as staff. Taking every opportunity to work on inventory counts on saturdays, first hand accounts

It's not like any of the firms hide the fact you don't get paid overtime. Also, staff did not get paid overtime previously either. So stop being such a fuckin baby

Arthur definitely was not lol stop talking out your ass

That's how any business work. Businesses reduce employee benefits all the time if that's what it takes to maintain the bottom line. Obviously it's a tough line to walk, since if you reduce benefits too much then employees will leave. PA has found that perfect spot where they reduce benefits, but not to the extent to create a massive exodus.

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