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I used to do traditional labor. I hated the fact that discipline cases depended on the arbitrator and suffered more bad beats and undeserved wins than legitimate wins or losses. Further, ULPs are soul crushing on both sides because there is no incentive to settle (no prevailing fees component unless bad faith) that would make parties reasonable. They just want someone to tell them they are right before they go back to the status quo to bargain again. Further, having done more traditional labor on the union side, I saw board members absolutely use outside counsel and the union used to accomplish their own personal ends.
No regrets. I think it’s the only reason I’m still an attorney.
Honestly, I just could not stand all of the procedural nonsense involved in employment work. Especially the endless fighting over discovery. That’s very rarely an issue in labor work, which makes the practice, for me, much more enjoyable.