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I did. It was horrible but it was a learning experience. It taught me some valuable lessons during the interview process that I still implement today and no amount of money or perks would ever equal not asking the following:
1. Who will I be reporting to?
2. Are they the same person that is my manager?
3. How much input did the my potential manger have in creating the job description?
4. If I haven’t met my new potential manager, at minimum, I would like to speak with them before accepting the position, or at least dialogue with them during the interview process. **DO NOT ACCEPT ANY ROLE IF YOU HAVENT HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH YOUR POTENTIAL MANAGER**
5. What are potential manager’s expectations for new hire?
6. Will I be reporting to more than one manager and if so, what % or division of my time will be allotted to each manager and which manager’s work takes priority? Does the other manager know this?
7. I would like to speak with the team under the managers and or who I will be working with.
Those are minimum dialogue questions.
I accepted a role and the team said I was a great fit for them. And I matched the job description perfectly but my hiring manager and man I’d be reporting to was never available. I accepted the role and it became crystal clear two weeks after I started that my new manager had no input into the job description, had wanted a different role for his new hire but never communicated his expectations to HR. The manager never spoke to me again after that one day. Never made eye contact and I ended up being paid really well $(85K) to become a glorified copy girl. I was supposed to be a project coordinator. I spent my days doing a little Sharepoint keying, a little DOT keying, a lot of document plotting scanning and FedEx ing. Boring. I stayed six months and left. It was horrible. If I tried to take on other work within my department, my manager went to his lead engineer and told them to tell me to stop. He was basically making me pay for his lack of follow up to HR. NOT my fault he wanted a CAD person but never even told his team what he wanted. I mirrored the last project coordinator. But I won’t work for a manager that acts like I just don’t exist. He literally only spoke to me directly for 3.5 minutes in six whole months. 🤦🏻♀️
Do what you must so you can do what you want. Means to an end just have a plan and be in a place in your life to be able to handle the parts that would make you miserable.
Your mental health is more important than career growth. Your friends, family, loved ones and heath can’t be replaced, but a job can be.
Yes and never again however it was tricky as I did a succession of contracts at the time with a huge mortgage & 2 young kids - def ask yourself ‘working to live or living to work?’
I had a lot of red flags at two places & ignored them: will never ignore my gut feel now!
First place the owners were megalomaniac zealots who treated employees as dispensable - so many stories but the one that sticks in my mind is them sacking an employee on the spot who had worked there 33 years because he couldn’t work on Good Friday: his daughter was giving birth & he was her person as the dad was serving at the time overseas
Second megalomaniac I worked for was the owner of another company & I decided that the money was great but the angst & woe was not worth the price. He would call me at 1930 in the evening & get pissed if I got ‘distracted’ by my children - 2 & 4 years old at the time (no I was not on call)… I committed to training my replacement & he inferred that the credit card reconciliation that was missing receipts was me embezzling funds - pretty difficult to do as it predated my employment & how did I get said card off his person? Obviously I’m a most skilled thief
So I finished up that day - my replacement lasted 47min before telling him to go forth & that no amount of compensation would be worth working with him..
They’re the only two places that I would write a terrible Glassdoor review
Yes and I’d do it again. At this point in my career I’m much more choosy because I have options now but when I was starting out and couldn’t get that first relevant experience I took a job that was awful. My advice to young people in the same situation is take whatever you can but don’t stay for long if it’s a bad environment. Get the title and experience and get out.
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This is what I’ve considered. Thanks!!
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I’ve definitely seen people make that trade, telling themselves it’s temporary and worth it for the experience. Sometimes it does pay off, but other times the stress ends up costing more than expected. I think the hard part is knowing whether it’s a strategic short-term sacrifice or just a situation that slowly drains you.
For me, this depends on where I’m at in my life. Right now, I’m more willing to take a riskier step. 5 years from now I probably won’t be because I plan to have a family and will have more obligations to think about