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As a former TABP, I’ve had dozens and dozens of candidates make counter offers. The ones who are successful are the ones who have built up the value of their skill set and immediate impact with the hiring managers.
If a company withdrawals an offer over one additional WFH day every two weeks, they’re probably not someone you wanna work for anyway. That’s a red flag that they probably treat all of their employees like a number and likely have a bad culture.
Thank you. And just to be clear, they haven’t withdrawn the offer, it’s just my paranoia. To be ultra clear: they offered me a salary for five days - 4 in the office and 1 at home. My usual working pattern - and common for our industry - is actually 3 days in the office, 2 at home. This is what I suggested and they rejected it this morning. So I want to go back and find a compromise, such as a couple more days at home over the month to allow school pickup to be a little easier. It’s really minor in my opinion and I’m confident I can still give them the senior performance.
I guess I’m just looking for reassurance that a company who’s made seven interviews to ‘find the right fit’ and chosen me wouldn’t suddenly withdraw over this request?)
Yes
I would not want to keep having to constantly negotiate with you. (My thought would be you would constantly be asking for more)
Many candidates are out there
If they view being in the office as essential to their business and culture maybe you aren’t a good fit if you want/need more wfh days.
Just finished a lengthy interview process with a boutique consultancy. I sensed throughout that I was the ideal candidate because culture fit was so important to them. They’ve made me an offer but I wasn’t happy with the arrangement around my family life. I counter-offered. They’ve said no. I have another offer up my sleeve. Qu: if I put that forward is there a likelihood in your experience that they will fully withdraw and offer it to a second candidate? Or is the reality that you get emotionally set on a certain person?
I don’t want to play my entire hand and lose. The counter-offer I’ve made is more than reasonable (1 extra day WFH every two weeks. It’s not about salary, it’s about location and hours)
When you say you have another offer up your sleeve do you mean with a different company? Or another counteroffer with this company?
I mean I have another suggestion to make to them, this company. I want to find a compromise. But I’m worried if I keep pushing back they’ll withdraw completely. My husband said this is silly thinking (‘when you want to hire someone you really want *that* person’). I just wondered what your experience would be, for people on the other side of the fence of my situation.
If it’s about flexibility instead of money do you really want to work for them?? What you have said here sounds incredibly reasonable, especially if you’re not asking for more money, just more flexibility to do good work.
If they’re being like this now, I doubt it gets any better if you are hired. A company fighting over one extra WFH day every two weeks is asinine. Especially if they’re all about “culture.”
Many of these culture first companies mean sacrifice yourself in numerous ways on the altar of company culture.
It’s tough. In this job market and with so many companies doing layoffs, you do run the risk of them rescinding the offer altogether.
Consider this, if everyone else is expected to come in 4 days a week and you get additional flexibility, that likely is going to create frustration for others on the team who weren’t able to get an exception (and also the hiring manager).
If you really want to take the job and this additional flexibility is a “nice to have” vs. a dealbreaker, ask the hiring manager if you can revisit the discussion in 6 months once you’re fully onboard and exceeding expectations. 😉
No way! Negotiating is very normal part of the recruitment process. Why would anyone withdraw?? Just say no we can’t meet that and leave it up to them if they want to accept it or not.
Don’t let it scare you. If they rescind then good riddance. I wouldn’t wanna work for a company like that anyway, that rescinds an offer for such an unreasonable reason.
And there’s no “bluff” if you do your research and ask for a reasonable amount that’s within what the market is offering. Just be strategic