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McKinsey & Company I am joining the McKinsey & Company Boston office in late July and searching for housing in the meantime. If I could get some insight on the ratio of days in the office vs work from home that would be super helpful!
If I need to come into the office regularly I will try to find a place close by.
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Our staffing model is the best, IMO. Total control— no career limitations based on geographical preferences
@Analyst1, no one wants to move city to city every few years. Ppl do this but it's definitely not the norm
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Totally agree - McKinseys model is by far the best. But also very achievable at BCG in my experience (I was based in a large office and only did 10% of my projects based there)
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There is nothing at McKinsey stopping you from optimizing to work on local cases - all they are providing is a larger option set
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Flexibility seems great but I’ll offer the flip side
Talked with a close friend at M and the flip side seems to be that you’re typically traveling more and not building office culture as much as one would through home or maybe more regional staffing.
There’s also more of a political side to getting staffed making networking important. If you want to network into a “hot” case then you need connections and promoters. Sometimes the cases aren’t even offered to you because they already know who they want etc. (M is big enough to get something similar probably?).
It makes sense that managers and partners would pick those with previous exp or are top performers. For ex, you could get siloed if you worked a few cases in stuff like energy and want to do retail or tech. Hearing personal exp where they’re having trouble switching industries after having done two cases in one industry. Also, flexibility doesn’t mean you’ll get to do whatever industry you want. I see a lot of BAs (friends on LinkedIn) working in mining or something random. Pretty sure there aren’t many BAs coming in only wanting to do mining.
Also don’t think the “office class divide” comes from the staffing model. I’m sure McKinsey NYC kids think they’re better than McKinsey Cleveland regardless or whatever.
Nevertheless it’s a great model for flexibility but just my opinions and devils advocate.
BCG7, sorry to hear you had that experience. This doesn’t match with my experience, but I know some offices/cdc can be different. I’ve been open with my CDA and staffing that I’d like to do international projects and while it doesn’t work out every time, I’ve gotten lucky working with some awesome MDPs. For reference, I was a top box A2, now a C1 in NAMR NE
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You can choose to prioritize local staffing - won’t always work out but most folks I know who don’t want to travel rarely need to. Exceptions being geographies where we don’t have too many clients.
I think our model is the best because you get to choose/prioritize- want to travel? Do it. Want to stay close to home or hybrid? Prioritize that in staffing. Want to do cool industries, random walk. Want to have a safe net with a bunch of people that you know? Network or stay with certain practice. I’m not saying you can have it all at the same time - do random walk, choose your location, have a fabulous network, get promoted every year. What I’m saying is that you get to choose what matters to you and what doesn’t, and live with that choice. I’ve never failed to get what I wanted and I prioritized something different each time.
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As with everything, it depends on what you value and what you’re trying to optimize for.
Your different rate cards creates a class divide between strategy and implementation consultants though
Is this to say someone who works in a smaller city like Minneapolis or Cleveland will likely end up traveling to one of the bigger, "more desirable" cities each week, like NYC, Chicago, Boston?
Mck model is great in 2 dimensions : staffing and incentivizing to team across the offices in global expertise