How does everyone feel about dry promotions? I was “promoted” and asked to take on more responsibility (2 whole departments that come with management of 12+ people) with no additional pay. When I asked for a fair compensation I was told that I was ungrateful and my salary/bonus opportunity has been capped. After continuing to stand up for myself and not back down on what I believe to be fair I was told that “maybe I’m not ready to take on this responsibility”.

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I feel like your employer is ridiculous and you should leave

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So…they are saying you’re not ready for the promotion they already gave you, just because you asked for a proper pay increase. That’s supreme gaslighting. I would tell them no thanks to the promotion and start looking elsewhere. That’s super messed up

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You are 100 in the right. Let him find someone else to manage that many people. Watch him struggle as you turn in your notice once you land a role at a place that values you!

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If they can’t pay the salary to match the role, maybe they’re the ones not ready for it?

Trying to use self doubt to take advantage of you speaks way more about their lack of character than it reflects your abilities. Use the promotion as an opportunity to update your resume and immediately begin applying elsewhere.

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Take the title change and start applying like crazy.

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Yup. Play the game until they can leave and don’t take a foolish counter from the old company to stay, OP.

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The most infuriating part for you will be when you decline the role. They’ll most certainly hire externally for more $

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That’s a no for me dawg. That is not a promotion. That is giving away free labor. Doing more work for the same salary is not a promotion. I would be looking for a new role asap and doing the bare minimum there in the meantime. I have learned that this is what companies often do to high performers so when managers start adding onto my responsibilities without increasing my pay, I decrease performance significantly. And then I’m not underperforming but just performing more like the average employee.

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Yea, I would definitely look for another job. Nobody works for free. It doesn’t make sense for anyone to take on additional responsibility without a pay increase. In fact, I would tell them straight up, “I don’t feel truly valued in this kind of promotion structure and find it unfair and toxic that I would be required to take on more responsibility without adequate compensation. I will gladly step down and continue doing my original job.”

Every job has a price at the end of the day. If they can’t pay it, that’s their problem.

I definitely get that it is emotionally charged. But also, not speaking up is how people get walked all over. AND the employer used emotionally charged words by calling OP “ungrateful” and saying “you’re not ready.” That is such an unprofessional thing to say to someone who works for you! They are literally gaslighting OP by making him/her look like the bad guy for asking for fair compensation for a whole new job lol!

But, yes, you can take emotion out of the statement and take the higher road give them a more professional response. Here’s a better way of putting it.

“Thank you for considering me for this leadership opportunity. I had no intention of coming off as grateful, as that is not the case so I apologize for any miscommunication. Please note, I take my work here and the success of this company’s business very seriously, which is why I believe a compensation adjustment that is in line with today’s market conditions for this type of managerial role is a very fair ask. This leadership position entails a new job title with many added roles and responsibilities and decision making authority. I’m humbled to be considered as I believe I add value through my skills and experience of X, y, z. However, if the company feels I am not a good fit at this time or does not have the budget to offer a market adjustment for this new job title, then I will be happy to continue working in my current role with my current responsibilities. Thank you very much.”

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I would politely decline the promotion and say “I’m comfortable where I am because that’s where you’re comfortable with my pay)

I wouldnt communicate with your boss in this way because passive aggressiveness doesn’t get you where think it does.

Decline the role, let them know the pay scale doesn’t offset the additional work load you have to take on.

Take the promotion & start looking. It’ll take like 9 freaking months to find a new job, so by then you’ll have experience with a sh*tton of reports & can ask for a boatload of $$ elsewhere.

hmmmmmm... a little more responsiblity is good and I'll take the experience.. but if it doesn't come with more pay ... the next role that does is going to look really appealing.

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