How does one achieve “Equity” (e.g. equality of outcome) without punishing success or boosting mediocrity?

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You can’t. Outcomes will always be naturally unequal (unless corrected for) since talent and drive is unequally distributed. Any equity-based correction from the natural distribution of outcomes will punish high performers or reward poor performers. All you can (and should) do is make sure that outcomes are not being driven by factors that have nothing to do with performance (race, gender, etc).

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It seems like you agree the issues are very complicated.

I’d argue that it’s probably okay to “punish success” and “reward poor performers” to a limited extent in the short term to smooth out economic inequality and promote equality of opportunity going forward. Especially when “success” and “poor performance” are typically measured in ways that favor the wealthy.

Straight up communism

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Apologies for the socialism, French 🐠 here.
I agree with everything D1 said, with the important caveat that i believe in a compassionate society there should be an agreement that everyone deserves to live a decent life. Even if you could achieve an economic system with perfect equality of opportunity and performance-driven outcomes, some of your fellow human beings may not be able (or willing) to perform to a level that earns them a decent living in this purely meritocratic system. My personal belief, thankfully shared with a majority of my fellow citizens, is that these people should not starve, sleep in the street or slowly die of curable illnesses, and that they should have access to some of the things that make human life worthwhile (education, social interaction, access to culture, etc.)

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D1, I think you’re making good faith arguments here, but I’d argue with your use of the term “socialism” (or perhaps you’re using it fairly but it’s been polluted). Very few people are arguing for “the whole lifestyle of everyone else who is working.” I’m not putting this on you, but a lot of people call essentially any safety net that’s tax-funded “socialism” (as an automatically bad thing). I’d like to see our safety net include safe shelter, decent food and water, access to basic healthcare (including necessary mental healthcare for those who cannot function), access to the internet (necessary today for access to most jobs/banking/education) and access to education. That’s my definition of equality of opportunity.

Has anyone thought that possibly an equality of beginning is more appropriate or attainable? I’m not sure how it would be achieved but all outcomes will never be equal

OP, per “punishing success,” I’d encourage you to read up on marginal taxation and historical rates in this country if you haven’t. There are things most people agree need to be paid for to have a functioning society - a fire department, for example, and high-quality roads. The money needs to come from somewhere. The people who have made the most money have also benefited hugely from these common goods (e.g. Amazon needs and uses highways), and benefit from large numbers of people being able to buy products. No reasonable person is arguing that Jeff Bezos should have all or even most of his money confiscated, but there is a reasonable argument that a) he can afford to contribute a higher percentage of his income beyond the billion-dollar mark, and b) he personally benefits from living in a more stable society with more customers and better roads.

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