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I’m sure they’re happy to be able to pay the bills, even if they aren’t particularly happy with the wages. Be thankful it isn’t you, yet.
Thanks for commenting, and yes, I am happy it’s not yet me, but I think I want to do something different later on, or soon if i am forced to, to never be in that position.
I also learned though that just being part of a creative team for social reasons seems really important to the older demographic.
Happy and sad, all at the same time. Thanks for keeping 50+ employed.
My financial advisor can’t comprehend that I work in an industry where my highest earnings wont be in my 60s. And in fact I’ll likely not be able to find work.
Yep, it’s really a dilemma. The saying “up or out” very much applies to us creatives
Low wages is very high compared to no wages.
There are a lot of people like that at our level who don’t care so much about the money or the titles, just want to stay in the trenches and do the work without any ego. hire us!!👍🏻
Awesome that you hired them. Let them decide if the salary is right for their individual situations. For some some folks, salary is just one factor in accepting a position. And I can speak from experience that it is just as frustrating when people won’t give you a shot because they assume you’ll only accept a certain salary...that assumption is one of many contributing factors to ageism. Be honest about the salary and expectations for the position. If someone gets offended, it’s not the job for them.
Ha, I am in the situation now, where I need to manage the salary expectation game as people assume I am expecting too much
I’m 50 and make 30% of what I made 6 years ago. Freelancing rn. I hope to get a staff job and up it to 50% of what I made 6 years ago 😐
Thank you for your replies. It’s true. I can’t imagine what it must be like.
I don’t take my opportunities for granted. I was at one place for a long time and did well. Once I left and had to try to fit into new office cultures it became very tough.
I did do my best to balance out the mix of the department. I learned a lot about people, and myself.
Thank you for hiring older creatives. That’s all you need to concern yourself with. We are all gonna get there...
Thanks. In both cases it wasn’t only about having jobs and income, but also the joy of being part of a fun, social environment and team.
You probably gave them an opportunity that others keeps skipping over them. I’d bet they are happy you gave them a way to take care of their families and to have purpose. Kudos
Indeed! You never know. They probably did have a terrible time finding work and are very grateful for the opportunity.
Just glad you got to hire them. It’s rare.
Why won’t more agencies address ageism?
Then get rid of Jr. Level people to gain the salaries for the more Sr. Level people you just hired. They have more experience anyway.
I’m 41 and having trouble. But thank you for the perspective. We’re in this together.
I’m 47 and had to jump out of the Manhattan large agency world when I got divorced and had to be a solo parent after building my career for almost 25 years. The ad world doesn’t accept parenting “issues” even when the work still gets done (and more). Now I make 60% less than what I did just a few years ago and I’d like to get back into the ad world bc I miss it. But don’t know if it will allow me back in. 🤷🏻♀️
Keep trying. I hear you. It took me about 18 months, tailoring my resume to tell a better story of my background. Remember, your resume is your story to tell. And you don’t always need to include things that happened 10 or 15+ years ago. Less is more when you’re 50 or older.
Money is important. However, for a lot of us it’s not the most important. Who we work with. What we work on. Pride in the agency name. They all have their value. Good on you for hiring the experience your client deserved. Godspeed.
As the CEO of a fully integrated creative content company, I absolutely love the diversity of my company (gender, race, age, sexuality, etc).
I am certain the creatives are excited to be part of the team.
You don’t know their total financial situation. With years in the business, especially after this long bull market, they could have significant savings. Yes it’s nice to be paid well, but some also value routine, staying engaged, belonging, contributing.
I am sure they were happy for the job!
Covid-19 will wipe out a lot of jobs globally. Higher wages and higher ages are especially vulnerable.
ECD2, it absolutely does not make me feel better. I recently went through the same thing, but landed before the world went mad. A job search when you’re 40+ in this industry is not fun under the best of circumstances. Sending you positive vibes that it all works out 💪🏽
It shouldn’t feel good at all for any agency that needs but doesn’t truly value the experience, perspective, and efficiencies these individuals presumably will bring to young teams and clients, generating indirect revenue and value beyond the direct functional work they’ll produce. It’s business, they’ll say. Supply and demand, they’ll argue. No. It’s people. Who’ve on the hiring side made a decision to pay a wage albeit by your statement not a fair one. And on the hired side who probably feel more lucky than proud. Now when the conversation turns to 55-year olds earning the same wage they did 20 years ago your agency will have played a part.
If when I’m 50 I’m making 50% of what I’m making now and still be able to have a decent, stimulating job that allows me not to wear a tie all day I’ll consider myself lucky.
How low?