I (in UK) just found that in the USA, prisons are private companies rather than govt entities. In all seriousness, wtaf? Why would you have it set up like that?

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In this topic I learned school shootings didn't happen before Obama. I am shocked KPMG didn't somehow include Hillary, but him claiming to not know who Alex Jones is makes sense. He doesn't seem to follow the world around him, only things Hillary and Obama do that he can be offended about.

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Why would you compare against Mexico? How is that relevant to the standards and laws of the US? The relevant comparison would be US outsourced vs US state-run across a spectrum of metrics - not only recidivism but health and well-being of the inmates.

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Not all are private but a lot of them are. Under Obama there was some initiatives to end private prisons but that all went out the window when Trump came into office. Short answer to your question is greed and lobbying.

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Maybe they should be paid based on reducing the recidivism rate of their prisoners, i.e. actually rehabilitate prisoners. I could get behind that kind of business model.

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Poverty is a statistically significant contributing variable to the rise in crime rates. Poor education is another. That is why economic development programs in 3rd world countries focus on jobs and education predominantly. If people are poor, lack job access and education, they become easy recruitment targets to a life of crime , cult /gang membership and extreme religious zealotry. This increases recidivism, not privatization of prison system

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The argument was that it was “cheaper” for tax payers. Private prison corporations have found a way to profit from human misery

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@D1, I agree - it would be quite difficult. Providing more pro society incentives would be a start. Or we could just stop sending so many people to jail..."Land of the Free" 🙄

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Thanks K1 - I was starting to worry you’d lost your crazy

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KPMG was absolutely brain washed at some point. And just isn't very intelligent. Would you want him doing your business's accounting?

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"We" didn't. Our politicians did in many cases because those companies donated generously to their campaigns.

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@M1: They’re trying outcomes-based approaches in healthcare and there’s a lot of resistance. Doing a job well is hard. But I totally agree, it’s a great idea.

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That’s really depressing. Given that a private company is legally obliged to operate in the financial interests of its shareholders, I would have thought that would make an incompatible conflict of interest with the requirements of a prison (to reduce recidivism) as keeping prisoners in longer and getting them back earns more money. Why aren’t there people fighting the fact that their taxes are paying for this bs?

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Because they're, on aggregate, neither informed enough nor farsighted enough to care. Most people are only interested in when their next paycheck and one night stand are. Most of the rest aren't actually interested in solving issues and are just cheerleaders for their party like its a football team.

They're not going to break orthodoxy to criticize an issue both major party establishments agree on.

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^actually your comments are hardly what one would call “brilliant” or at very least “balanced”

KPMG FTW

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Isn’t it amazing how one prolific poster can destroy the reputation of an otherwise pretty respectable firm?

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7% of of state prisoners and 18% of federal prisoners are in private prisons.

It's still disgusting that you have lobbyists for these private corporations with a profit incentive to imprison more people.

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They also get to have inmates build stuff for like $0.25 an hour. Even if it’s a state run prison. Like Iowa Prison Industries. They build dorm room furniture, for example

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