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Inspire, or brag? 🤔
An “inspired” humble brag. I’m ready to tackle the week now!
Congrats to those making good salaries. This thread make it seem like many people are making 200-300k. And that’s going to make a lot of other people feel bad. From a purely anecdotal thread, we have no way to determine an exact statistic such as 15% of full time staff in advertising agencies make over 200k. How can we inspire people who make less...and not make them feel like they are a minority (which I highly doubt)
Should we share ideas on what you did to increase your salary or make you more marketable? That could be helpful.
I thought long and hard about sharing figures. It’s not been an easy climb. But the one thing I learned early was that if I had a “job” with an “agency”, the one thing that mattered above all else was my ability to foster and sustain a growth mindset. To deliver billing$$. All my awards, and they are substantial, are for real, effective work that led to more work. I watched with envy as useless, meaningless but one-off clever shit took home Cannes grand pris, while my team’s truly world changing work, one that literally millions of people benefited from in their own words, was glossed over because it didn’t come packaged in perfectly kerned type. But I learned early that I much preferred delivering value over awards. (As someone I admire once said, if Facebook were to be a Cannes entry it wouldn’t win because it didn’t have a clever headline attached to it) Anyhoo, Imho, the only reason I was and am able to earn my paycheck is because I always maintained relative parity between what I made and what I delivered. If you are feeling depressed about 6 fig salaries people are sharing here, I would challenge you to think differently. It’s not very difficult if you can recast your mental model.
This exercise doesn’t feel ‘inspiring’ to me.
I removed my post as the disparity made me sad.
51, on track to never make 200k.
46. 165 as high as ive gone. Ill take it
Also INSPIRE everyone by sharing your student loans, mortgage or rent, budget for therapy, weed and blow, and the number of people who are likely to avoid you day to day because you’re insufferable. What a doucher.
Oh and please also report your parental status and gender. 41, F, parent—not even close to 200k.
Yeah this is a bit pointless. 200k is the same as 100k in most cities outside of NYC, LA, SF - people make big money in NY and spend big money. So...
Plus, wage scales are different for different departments under the huge banner of “advertising.” I don’t need to be reminded —trust me on this — that there are jobs within this industry that pay 35-year-olds five times what I’ll ever make.
Female, NYC. 3 kids.
200k @ 37.
300k @ 42.
But what are you saving?
Can we add city to this? I’m a CD in Chicago making $155 and I have friends over 40 who aren’t even at that number yet. Maybe we’re all terrible negotiators, but I suspect Chicago is generally bad at paying.
Never broke 200 agency side. Went in-house (start-up) and got equity. Had an 8-figure payday and retired at 44.
Too late to retire by 44. But that’s journey is still the intent :)
This is inspiring who, and how? If all salaries were equal, and fairly earned, maybe but they aren't, and this isn't.
People always say “it’s all about the work, you don’t need a fancy site.” I disagree with this wholeheartedly. It doesn’t need to have bells and whistles, but it needs to look modern and it should be technically up-to-date. I retired my stock portfolio platform, anddesigned my own site and it legitimately got me jobs. Same work, better presentation. It’s an investment in yourself.
If you feel you deserve a raise or promotion lay out the argument. Get the job description for the role you want and map your accomplishments against it. Be relentless advocate for yourself in ways that you feel comfortable doing. Have an advocate/sponsor in management in addition to your boss if you think it will help. And understand your own internal promotion cycles at your agency so that you make sure you are getting attention and putting pressure at the right times. And if it ain’t working, leave for someplace that values you!!
I am slowly coming around to the sharing salary thing. I am of a particular age and we didn’t share that information as it looked like bragging. That said, and with some framing, this post could be go to get a sense of where you are or could be going. Or even better, maybe you need to make some moves (internal or elsewhere) to get the bump you need. I know as a woman of color this helps me when i sit down (keeping economy in mind) whether I need to lose my mind I’ve my pace of salary increase.
Let’s talk about how one can get these higher salaries - we all need help knowing how much to ask for and if it’s too high how one can stay in the running for the position
36, but it was so much hard work and a lot of proof because my performance is based on how I ended the year’s financials. Numbers don’t lie.
CD3, you sound like hr explaining why we didn’t get a raise
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42, 150k
45, 230k
52, 280k
55 (freelance) 320k
34/$200k
42/$325k
40 200k
50 350k
Guessing most of us who have cracked $300K are male
41: $215 plus bonus
43: ~$280 (combo of freelance and FT).
But with an FT job next year I should end up taking home around $250K including bonus
Female, NY.