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Had two odysseys, ex-wife still has the last one and ragged it out. They like to drink the gas but got the power and dependable.. Replaced a timing belt on it and before that she drove it for a while with the tensioner shot and the belt slack and it tapping for months. So, I would say they can take a lot of abuse.
I just got a Kia Carnival and like it a lot. Drives nice, lots of room, good features especially on the higher models, and a good price compared to the other two.
I found it to have better leg room than the Honda and Toyota in the third row. The trunk area was larger also. The whole thing is about as long as my Palisade, if not longer.
I think the Kia has best safety ratings for 2025. And can probably dicker the best with the Kia or Honda.
I have the Odyssey Touring and we love it. Super convenient and comfortable. I have 3 kids under 3 fwiw so 3 car seats.
I didn’t know they made a minivan but just checked out some reviews and the Carnival is a great option.
They call it an MPV now (multi-passenger vehicle). I still call it a minivan
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