Should college degrees matter for most jobs? Unless it's a direct training program (like doctors, engineers, etc), do you think we expect people to have too much education before entering the workforce?

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We're way over credentialed in the US.

Why does an admin person or billing specialist need a 4 year degree?

Why expect so many elementary school teachers to get Masters? Does a kindergarten teacher need a 4 year college degree? Why not a few classes and a 1 year apprenticeship?

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Director 1, it's very possible that those companies are violating antidiscrimination laws. Of course there's no reason a receptionist needs a college degree. But there's also nothing wrong with a receptionist *having* a college degree.

There is no such thing as too much education.

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College is one route to educate yourself but it is not the only route. Plenty of people (in my own fam for example) have built six figure careers and multi-million-dollar companies without degrees due to self taught skills and apprentices in trades.

School of hard knocks can be just as powerful of a motivator for a person to see success. Education isn't limited to a classroom and a degree isn't an automatic indicator of success.

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The biggest problem is how poorly highschools are preparing people. In general to graduate from college you have to have mastered some minimal level of math, Grammer, writing and critical thinking.

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Education supersedes experience, and then once one has sufficient experience the degree no longer matters.

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It's honestly probably less about the actual education (though that doesn't hurt) but rather you get someone a little older and more mature - no one wants to hire an 18 year old - and someone who has shown that they can at least commit to a 4 year goal and achieve it.

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That also makes a ton of sense. I'm thinking about the economic toll of college- the choices you make at 18 really determine your financial future for a good long time.

Perhaps we should focus more on why college is so expensive rather than your opinion on why teachers should not be required to continue learning.

My degree was a BA in Science. Definitely not a degree that's going to take me to a specific career (although I could have applied for medical school with that degree). I selected that major because I'm extremely interested in the sciences, especially the life sciences. I focused on Biology.

That was 44 years ago, when college didn't send anyone to the poor house. Because my family was extremely poor, my tuition at Penn State was paid by PHEAA and BEOG grants, plus work study that paid me to work on campus. That plus the money I'd earned checking coats at an expensive French restaurant for three winters covered my entire freshman year. Same with sophomore year, with the grants and my summer job. Same with junior year. Then Reagan took office and turned almost every grant into a loan.

Many will snidely say "college shouldn't be free!!! Taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill!!!" Well, in my 41-year career, I have paid back taxpayers dozens of times over with my taxes. I went from "Personnel Clerk" to Vice President HR, my pay grew commensurately, and I've paid taxes on my income all those years.

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I feel it should be a degree in the field for which one is applying. Ive seen jobs offering menial $14 hourly expectating a person to have a degree! Ive had interviews ( not multiple but it jas occured) where I met ALL qualifications ( 7 yrs experience or more ) but they wanted a person with a degree. Didn't care what field it was ...

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I think companies use bachelor degrees as a way to vet prospective candidate since it shows at a glance that they put in the work. But it’s also a dumb move since this shortcut will purposefully exclude better candidates who didn’t or couldn’t go to college.

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It is amazing how much emphasis we put into college degrees, especially when they often aren’t all that relevant to the job. However, I think companies are selective in education because they can be and it also indicates a demonstrated learning and intellectual ability. It basically derisks the hiring a bit, especially if the person doesn’t have a ton of experience.

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