the same way we look at slavery, future generations will look at what we do as wage slavery

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Having just finished reading the autobiography of Frederick Douglass, I think voluntarily working in Big 4 consulting for 6 figures is actually much better than slavery.

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FD worked in shipbuilding for a while after escaping slavery in Maryland - he was not a sharecropper but the text you were referring to was about sharecropping

Jeeez. Then what are you doing with your life?? Quit, buy one way ticket to Costa Rica and be a broke happy surfer! No one holds your hands. You can literally change your life if you plan it and 🥁🥁🥁have the guts to do it. The difference between slavery and this, is no one holds you against your will. You’re free to go to any spot on this planet you want. Go live in Thailand. It’s cheap there. Go to Spain, Croatia, chili. Ask chat gpt

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You must have a very gentle view of American chattel slavery.

You should seek to understand that more.

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VP1 - you may not like McK for whatever reason but I’m right on this one. The quote in question is about the use of “scrips” to pay newly emancipated slaves continuing to work in the South as sharecroppers - essentially it was “wages” that could only be used in the “company store” rather than actual tender that could be used everywhere. Douglass never lived or worked in the South but he was an advocate for former slaves like himself and he is pointing out the obvious injustice of such a system for former slaves like himself. His own experience in Massachusetts was a bit better and he’d sure as shit have been happy making the 1850s equivalent of a Deloitte salary. Also the quote in question is not from his autobiography. So now you and OP have been absolutely faced. 🙇

I didn’t expect to start today with someone minimizing actual slavery. Literal slavery.

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If this is rage bait then fair enough.. if not, comparing actual slavery to your desk job of moving logos around a slide is really shocking

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it still is slavery slave

Work in general or consulting? You're always welcome to choose another career path if the latter

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You're assuming the future corpocratic megastate will allow them to learn any history whatsoever.

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these fools

There are definitely parallels. To others’ points, we may not be physically fearful, but what about the mental stress of being laid off, losing your job, etc.?

The real wage slavery is at the lower middle class level that is being killed by the lag in real wages, inflation, growing living costs, etc. I’m sure there would be a change of tune if the consulting demographic found themselves paycheck to paycheck.

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“Where you live”, what about the rest of the US? Let’s chart that real wage growth compared to cost of living expenses.

This article is from 2015 so pre-fiscal insanity from COVID stimulus. https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/

This article is in line with your thoughts on recents years, but does a couple good years correct stagnation over prior decades? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna158569

I hope

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now try saying that to a partner you wage slave

Slavery? Really? Stop comparing my role, which I actually like, find the work interesting and most days pretty easy, where I make awesome money that has provided an incredible future for myself and my family…..to a horrendous time in our past.

Crazy the way you equate the two

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