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The chunky ones obviously from the discount store are pretty bad
The loafers are gross. The driving Mocs are ok, but the toe loops up ("elf toe effect"). Tods are way better in the driving territory, and church's are better oxfords and brogues.
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I agree with you. You can do so much better with your money at places like Alden/Churches.
Church's and ferragamo are different price category