What is up with everyone being put on PIP in Toronto? It’s starting to feel like an exit strategy to push people out regardless of performance. I’ve seen high-achieving talent placed on PIPs with no clear reason. Same pattern every time: blocked from projects, limited visibility, told to stay “available,” then set up to fail without access to key info. Managers go cold, treat you poorly, then PIP → termination. I’ve seen at least 5 people go through this since last June. What do you call this?

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It IS a layoff strategy. Agencies in NY have been using it for 5 years now.

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I'd call it an SLL "Sneaky Loophole Layoff"

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And I thought that was a US ad industry tactic. Unfortunate.

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Holy shit. This is exactly what happened to me. Especially lack of key info and then given feedback that I'm not acting up to my level because I don't have enough context to take decisions quickly.

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Where do you work

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There’s enough detail in my initial note. I’m seeing one too many PIPS in the industry with no real justification. That’s it!

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