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Have an offer at Citi for 120K as an AVP in the NY office. Currently making 92K at my current role. Is this a fair offer? I currently WFH pretty much full time at my current role but it seems like this one requires 2-3 days in the office - and this is something I’m very hesitant about. Thoughts on how to approach this?
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Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
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With the way that employers treat employees these days (constant layoffs, pitiful raises, etc.) I don't see any problem with it. People should invest less in their jobs and more in their personal and family lives.
Coach
I’m couldn’t agree more with this mindset!
It’s usually the company’s failure to keep an employee engaged. People don’t risk their careers if they like their work, and they can’t be expected to just quit on the spot when they have bills to pay. But they can’t be expected to perform normally either, not in a toxic environment they dread having to work for every day.
Coach
Yeah I think it’s just a big side effect of being treated like dirt and being paid nothing but expected to go above and beyond.
Coach
It's a great way to end up unemployed, with or without severance. Hopefully anyone who is quiet quitting in today's job market has a decent buffer in savings.
I personally would rather take ownership of my career, and go find something more fulfilling.
Coach
I was RIF'ed with a single phone call. Don't delude yourself into thinking firing someone is too much work.
Most people who do below bare minimum tend to be avoidant, scared, burned out, it's not solely because bosses, the system and life are messed up. Its a combination of feeling there's no control over your environment. Take it from someone who does the max everyday and is still fired. When people see the nicest, hardest working person fired, quiet quitting makes a lot of sense from a security and stability stand point. They learn how to survive.
Coach
I’ve seen the most hardworking people I know get rolled over for their productiveness so I’ve decided to always try get away with doing the bare minimum.
Quiet quitting results in an increased workload for other employees who remain engaged and consequently pick up the slack from their underperforming colleague.
The motivations behind it vary, but the “knowing your worth” argument falls flat with me, especially when the quiet quitter is content to just collect a paycheck until the employer forces them out.
Coach
I don’t really agree, I think a lot of quiet quitting is appropriately setting expectations and sticking by it.
It’s not the most ethical stuff to do when you feel the company is not giving a real support but is common to happen
Coach
I think if everyone is doing it it’s more than okay, I don’t like when the burden then gets dropped on the shoulders of coworkers.
I don’t see anything wrong with doing enough work to keep you employed.
Coach
Me neither!
Mentor
I see people advance doing less than most. So depends on managers I guess
Coach
I don’t think managers are usually the issue, I think it mostly stems from the companies themselves.
I understand it
Coach
Me too!