Can someone explain why agencies that have offices in Detroit are seemingly hiring for everywhere but their Detroit locations?

It is so discouraging to be an advertising professional and never see any openings in your city.

Dentsu has openings, but it’s never in Detroit. Razorfish has openings, never in Detroit. Mars has openings, never in Detroit. VML has openings, never in Detroit.

I am open to relocating because at this point, I have to be. Is Detroit just dead?

likehelpful
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

No client outside of Detroit wants to come to Detroit for meetings. Those offices are all relics of the auto heyday and now that those car companies are all leaving the local shops, those Detroit offices will eventually be phased out.

likesmartfunny

@VP Account Director 1 sums it up. Sadly, now that virtually all the car business is serviced from outside Motown, the Detroit ad industry will continue to shrink.

Thanks for reminding me to rewatch Detroiters

like

Every single Detroit agency I encountered through the years bent over backwards to drive work outside of the state. Commercial shoots, video shoots, still photography shoots. Entire creative teams made an enormous and very vocal point of how much they didn’t want to be or work in Detroit, in the state of Michigan, or even in the Midwest. It’s no surprise at all that the whole market there boxed themselves out of jobs.

smart

“Entire creative teams”… somehow I feel like this really means ECDs and CDs. I worked on Stellantis at the agency that shares its name with a kebab.

The higher level creatives were always out west or somewhere cold, snowy and mountainous, while the creatives who actually concepted the work were at home or at the office, not invited to the shoots.

It was weird because one specific ECD would brag about the photos they’d taken with a celebrity and how they enjoyed the shoot. I’m like, “I’m glad you wrote the script and developed the storyboards.” They don’t do anything but reap the fruits of the labor of actual creatives.

The ambitions of higher level creatives are always insatiable.

like

Those agencies have offices all over.

Unless you’re specifically seeing roles for Detroit clients, it’s sort of meaningless as the headcount in NY etc way exceeds Detroit and always will.

Detroit is also an odd one. Dominated by auto and local Detroit corps. People tend to stay at agencies forever which makes openings scant, and it’s such a little clique-y world that often new jobs are never posted and are just referral based.

helpful

It’s like the city of Detroit on four wheels

They have asbestos

The way things are going, there will be agencies only in one city per country. All the agencies will be in NY, London, Paris, etc.

Interesting take.

Related Posts

Anyone got insights on IBM Security? Areas of expertise? QoL? Pay, etc.

I have the final interview with Deloitte for their EFA analyst position. Anyone know what to expect for that?

like

I'll switch to a startup as the only data engineer and will closely work with all the Head ofs + the CTO.

Any advice/books/... on stakeholder management at that level? Especially when things fail/discussing budgets/new hires etc.

like

What can help me (2 YOE at B4) get an interview at MBB besides a referral? Certain skills, certain qualifications, GMAT score, or something else?

like

Interviewed with MS 2 weeks back for a Sr. PM role and followed up with recruiter today... they say that the team just finished with interviews last week and needs time to make a decision. Is this normal? Does a verbal offer take this long? Or is it just cos they are working on a formal offer?

likehelpful

Has anyone worked at CFGI? How does the work life look like? I’m potentially pursuing an opportunity and any insight is very much appreciated!

like

I’m at PE ops but I’m interested in deal work. If recruiters reach out to me before my 1 year mark should I take them or wait it out? Worried about how it’ll look on my resume as a “job hopper” or if my current team will be upset

like

I know this doesn’t count as an interview, but overall professional advice needed:
Any tips on asking for better severance pay?

like

Salary range for lead analyst (band 28) non tech?

like

Joining a big firm next week as fully remote lateral and flying out to home office for orientation. The schedule has me in office until 4:15. I’ve already been told I won’t have any actual work. Depending on how many people are there and how it feels, I was planning to stay an hour extra but should I hang around the office until later? First time visiting this city so it’d be great to take in some sights too (although that’s not a priority of course).

like

Has anyone rented office space over the last year so that you didn't have to be stuck in your home all day? Was it worth it, or did you just feel lonely there?

like

This weekend flew by smh. Can't believe it's about to Monday already

like

Hi fishes,

I am looking for a referral in JP Morgan, can someone please help? I have the Job ID with me. Thanks in advance!

like

Is there any profile which is based on purely SQL and nothing else, no excel/tableau/powerbi task.

like

Do bank managers/loan officers at local branches have any sway in approving loans? I live in a small Midwest town would it be better to go to my local bank and see if people I know there can get a better rate etc on an auto loan?

like

Is it a bad idea to leave public after 2 years + senior title?

I’ve been in public accounting for about 6 years and I feel like I need a certification. The CPA is not happening. What would be the most valuable CIA , CFE , CMA of CISA?

like

Don't miss out 3rd Annual Dementia Congress 2023 on May 22-23, 2023! Recommended by Ruth Finch at 2022 NPA Annual Conference via Whova event app

like

I have a question for you guys:

What's the best way to get my hands on some free traffic?

like

Hello everyone am looking for Side hustle , anything works driving ,plumbing ,construction etc anything works just hit me up and I I’ll make time to get it done for you thnx 💪

likehelpful

Additional Posts in Advertising

New to IT B2B marketing. Any advice on how to educate myself with IT? Any classes, books, etc. that you recommend?

like

What about Italy? Anyone working there?

like

I know longer = better on your resume. But if you’ve been there a year and you know 2 years would be 💩 and any longer will be 🥲🔫, is it better to just gtfo of there asap?

Post Photo
like

Any great resume-writer recos? I need help!

like

Anyone from MediaCom on here?

like

Which do you prefer?

“Give me a deadline and I’ll get the work done”
or

“when I get this done I’ll let you know and we can figure out when the client will see it.”

like

What are the steps to becoming a marketing manager on the client side?

like

A little over a year ago, I posted about my boss making constant comments about my salary. Most comments said I must not have been performing well. I want to update that he was fired, not me.

likeupliftingfunny

In your opinion, what advertising/branding/experiential agencies should someone targeting greater San Diego and Los Angeles go after? (Yes, it is very expensive to live in California)

like

Calling all managers with junior, intern and mid teams: Who is taking (or is being given) the time to train their juniors on the necessary hard and soft skills? If not, what’s stopping you from providing that support?

like

If you got fired tomorrow, how long can you go without a paycheck? Assume you get 1 week of pay for every 6 months worked, and then can do unemployment after that ($425 a week)

like

give this man a raise.

Post Photo
likefunny

I’ve been hearing and reading a lot of negative things about GUT from friends and on here. Can anyone from GUT tell me if it’s actually a toxic place to work? Or is that just haters hating?

like

Working with another agency on a project and think I'd rather work there. Protocol for reaching out to someone to pick their brain? Email? LinkedIn message?

like

My browser history is failing me and hope y’all can help! I recently stumbled upon a website where some ad folks had compiled a bunch of idea/conceptual thinking approaches and if you clicked through there were past spots that had utilized that idea / way of thinking. I wanted to share it with a mentee and can’t track it down. It was a simple layout: grid of images w/headline naming the idea … Sound familiar?

like

Too late in life to start a cult? Getting kind of old for advertising.

likefunny

‘And I would rather be anywhere else, but here today...'

Post Photo
like

What have other people's experiences been working for companies under WPP?

like

Time to hire—I've seen dozens of fledgling lists/databases of available creative talent & diverse talent. Which ones are people actually using?

like

Whomever is doing the tv placement for Advocate Healthcare in Chicago: do you have to have the ad going every other commercial? If I hear “come on get healthy” one more time, I’m leaving the state.

likefunny

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal