Do jobs that have a significant incident response component tend to have bad wlb? Is this a dead end compared to product counsel roles?

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Disclaimer that I’m still in big law but I’m in privacy/cyber and have done secondments. Every in house lawyer I work with on the privacy side is so grateful to not do incident response. The nature of the work is incompatible with wlb, especially at a bigger company. Fire drills are to be expected. Also like you mentioned, little room for upward trajectory compared to product counsel roles. Having the skills is always helpful but I wouldn’t choose a role where incident response is the main focus

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Probably not. Whenever I hear “half this and half that,” I always assume that it’s not a perfect split, and consider the reality that the less appealing thing might take up, say, 70% of my time in practice. I wouldn’t be okay with that, because my goal is to develop as a product counsel

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Yes to WLB during incidents, but depends on frequency and size of incidents, how well developed procedures are, etc. No opinion on the second question.

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