Does hr always support the manager or they actually listen to both sides. In a complaint?

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HR is the Company. Your experience is why so many employees seek legal resolution. My experience is that when a layoff comes, your position is eliminated. Unless there is overwhelming evidence that the manager is a problem, your complaint is ignored. There has to be multiple complaints from multiple employees or something so egregious that it can’t be ignored. Buy the way, they don’t need your account to be active to see what’s in your account, your browsing history or anything else.

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In fairness they listen to both sides, and THEN tell you you're wrong and the manager is right.

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Depends on the company and the situation. HR exists to protect the company. If the manager's behavior puts it at risk, HR will take the employee's complaint seriously. Or should.

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This is the truth

They don't listen to either of them. Their job is to protect the company.

Usually that defaults to protecting the manager.

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Oh that’s going to depend on so many factors. But keep in mind that hr’s main role is to protect the company. So, they’re going to act in whatever way does this.

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Same thing is occurring with me. I’m looking towards securing an attorney. To review the case

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As others have said, HR is there to protect the company. If they take action against you for reporting then I would for sure seek out an attorney before taking any action or speaking with them again. The other option is to just walk away.

I have only filed 1 complaint to HR about a manager in my 20+ years of work. It was a very abusive situation and I was ready to leave. They ended up doing nothing to the manager because I quit. But they ended up paying me for the next month without me working there.

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Hr supports the company at the end of the day. They will align with whomever is best for that.

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HR doesn’t support the manager, HR supports the company.

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HR always protects the business and you are in trouble. Hire a lawyer to fight on your behalf. Managers. Typically are pawns as well. They won’t help you in most cases

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HR is there to protect company.

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Well in my case I went to HR for help, and they fired me.

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It’s situational. Whose side would be worse for the company?

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Good luck. The EEOC is a toothless joke. Unemployment law is firmly on the side of the employer. The whole system needs to be thrown out and replaced.

Normally, I find HRs to be extremely short-sighted to protect companies' interests only. That's why I use unions and I also mezmorized the work code and all its legal procedures almost by heart to give them a piece of my mind if required and if they start pushing me, not paying correctly, breaking the work code to their advantage, taking advantage that regular employees are not lawyers and all. I sued them once and won big time. So whoever checks my record on that is usually alarmed to behave. lol. I never "attack" myself, but do make sure I protect my rights.

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HR works for the company! PERIOD!

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They find a way to make sure they can fire you without consequence if they need to. That's it.

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HR will go by the rules and regulations of your company's handbook. If you have any unwritten rules that goes against the Handbook, then you could be held responsible. This is why some matters should be worked out in-house before involving HR.

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Keep in mind everyone is the company. Whatever concern is brought up HR represents the company interest - as it should. As an employee we should hopefully not take a default stance as us vs the company - the company also means all the good folk working there. Big enough action will impact everyone - pending the many many factors such as size of institution, etc.

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HR sole purpose is to protect the company (Same as Legal). They view all resources as a risk. They will assess which resource poses the greater threat and determine the least risky course of action to eliminate the threat. That is usually the resource that is lower on the organizational chart.

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I have worked in HR and they do not work for the employee they work for the company or organization. They will ALWAYS protect the company.

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HR is there to protect the company from liability. If the manager gets dangerously close to expose the company to liability, then they will usually take the employee side and get rid of the manager, but most of the times they will take the manager's side as they are the company closest representative

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