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Coach
Absolutely. Almost impossible not to if you work at some big shops and have any self respect.
What sucks is how immature so many “creatives” leaders are, in that any push back or polite confrontation is immediately taken as challenging authority or being “difficult”. In my experience we’re an awfully delicate bunch.
I wear my heart on my sleeve and, as much as I preach not to, take rejection personally. So… lots of 🔥
It’s taken a lot of burned bridges to learn when and how to speak up before it gets to that point - and realizing just because someone’s in a leadership role doesn’t mean they’re good leaders.
Yes. Asshole ECD threatened to ‘blacklist’ me if he heard I said anything bad about the agency after I accepted a promotion somewhere he hated. I told him ‘You aren’t important enough to blacklist anyone. My last day is today. I’m not spending two weeks being harassed by you. And I’ll tell anyone who asks about this agency the truth, thanks.’ I left the building and never went back. The ECD was fired a few months later and I like to think what I did was the start of that.
Burning this bridge has had zero impact on my career, I actually got my current job by talking shit about him in the interview with someone who used to work for him.
Bosses talk about ‘burning bridges’ as a manipulation technique, and it’s usually indicative that they’re a total asshole.
Love this
Enthusiast
Unfortunately, yes.
1st ever job - was laid off because of a toxic acd. 2nd place, a director engaged in a relationship with me and ended sour despite me bringing it to my managers months beforehand.
🔥
Mentor
Yeah probably, fuck them.
I always liked this from a Vetements hoodie: "May the bridges I burn light the way " 😂😭
Lol I love this
Mentor
Sounds like the beginning of a 311 song.
Ha, your age is showing 👀
When I was younger I took rejection badly. I often got pissed off and said stupid things about my rejectors. Later, I developed empathy for my former bosses—even the jerks. I realized that some of them were emotionally unstable, some were clueless, some were inexperienced, some were weak, some were insecure, and some thought they were doing the right thing. In a few cases, I probably would have made the same decisions they made. Do I wish I had matured earlier? Yes. Would I re-burn some of the bridges? For sure.
Coach
I notice you didn’t add “and some where right to reject my bad ideas…” or is that that last bit? ;)
There are people and places I would never work at/for again. I wouldn’t say I have burned any bridges that anyone is aware I burned. I have one ex-boss who absolutely hates me. They hated me before this happened, but they laid me off with three months severance and I was already interviewing and was one day away from giving notice and didn’t mention it, obviously. Started the new job two weeks later. Made two salaries for 2.5 months. After giving me a speech about how they would help me with a recommendation for a new job, they totally ignored my LinkedIn request. 😂
I burn trees every day. No bridges yet
Too many to count. 🔥
In my early days, yeah… I sent a company-wide resignation letter about wanting to change the world elsewhere. The cringe. The absolute *cringe.*
I think I may have received that letter…
I burnt one earlier this year. Terrible agency and the partner I worked with was a combo of controlling and not very good. I cancelled my contract and got an icy call from the owner of the shop and known name in the industry. It was squirmworthy but I had to tell him your shop isn’t in order and the guy I was working with was awful. Consider that a crater made.
Only on purpose 🔥
Subject Expert
I try not to. Have you OP?
Burn baby burn 🕺 🔥
Enthusiast
Oh yeahhhhh, it was an overall toxic environment. They were trash human beings and my behavior definitely contributed as well. Fucked me up for a number of years but I’ve recovered since then.
Nah. Fortunately never met a toxic ad person. Less than two years in though.
Oh wow. I envy your innocence.
Nah only fences
I’m hoping to in the near future.
Mentor
I never really hated someone so I didn’t feel the need to burn a bridge. I have left agencies after one year, they were disappointed but nobody held it against me. They even told me I can always come back. I’m lucky.
Oh I’m about to!!!